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Amazon’s killing a feature that let you download and backup Kindle books

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  • L [email protected]

    I told people years ago. You don't own those books.

    I own my books.... They are made out of this thing called paper and line the wall of my office. All the volumes I value I have of copy of for myself and future generations of my family

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    And mine are digital, DRM stripped, stored locally, backed up to my NAS, and cloud.

    Don’t be a Luddite.

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      My libra 2 breaking just after they were discontinued will forever be an unhappy event. I know the libra colour exists but I can not stand color e-ink screens.

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      Wow, I just bought it last year before they discontinued it then. Interesting that only colour screens are available now. It must mean that they are at least as good though?
      Edit: after reading reviews, apparently not... that sucks.

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      • yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.comY [email protected]

        Wow, I just bought it last year before they discontinued it then. Interesting that only colour screens are available now. It must mean that they are at least as good though?
        Edit: after reading reviews, apparently not... that sucks.

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        honestly I have no clue why so many manufactures are pushing color e-ink right now. It's still not as good as the first gen nook was for black and white.

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          honestly I have no clue why so many manufactures are pushing color e-ink right now. It's still not as good as the first gen nook was for black and white.

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          At least I'm hoping that there'll still be a spectrum of both BW and color screens available. Apparently many seem to like/prefer colour screen, and the screen door effect and worse contrast doesn't seem to bother a lot of people. Some even prefer the more textured look of the screen door effect, though I don't know myself as I've never tried a colour screen. Either way, I'd be hesitant to try one, and as I kept my Kobo Aura One for like 7 years it'll be quite some time before I upgrade my current Kobo Libra 2. If I have some spare cash I might be inclined to try a colour e-reader as an alternative to my current one, but it's not high on my priority list.

          But yeah, it definitely seems that Kobo is pushing their colour screens as they're only selling the Libra in colour now. Might be that they release a B/W once the hype dies out a bit though.

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          • thefunkymonk@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

            I noticed this feature wasn’t available for my Colorsoft and asked support about it. They assured me it would be added later. This is exactly what I expected to happen.

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            you returned it as soon as that was the answer right? I know that would be my answer.

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            • D [email protected]

              im glad i didnt even try eink, i just went to best buy tried the cheapest tablets and the s9 fe works perfectly for me, wanted to like the p12 lenovo but the brightness was terrible on it, couldn't see shit. I think id be dissapointed in my reading experience if eink is so much nicer, i like having options to watch media and do other stuff

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              I used to have a normal tablet before buying my e-reader and can say with certainty it is night and day difference. So much more comfortable to read on e-ink. Even comics are usually good in black-and-white.

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              • roofuskit@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                Adding on to this that Barnes and Noble sells DRMed ePUB files that are relatively easy to strip DRM from using Calibre.

                So if you can't find a book anywhere else, at least they don't use a proprietary format and still allow you to download your books using their PC software.

                I was a semi-early adopter in the ebook space and I have refused to get onboard with the kindle ecosystem from the start. There's no reason for their proprietary format other than complete control over things they pretend to sell you. Amazon is also the Walmart of books and uses their position to browbeat publishers and authors into taking smaller cuts of sales.

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                I hate Amazon's proprietary format too because one time it was the only download available and my reader just can't display it!!

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                • N [email protected]

                  Apparently Boox has been a stomping all over the GPL licensing terms. You can find a lot of info on it, but here is a non-reddit link:
                  https://www.mobileread.com/forums/showthread.php?t=277431

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                  Aah, I didn't know...but at least it's store and format agnostic, which Kobo definitely is not.

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                  • roofuskit@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                    Adding on to this that Barnes and Noble sells DRMed ePUB files that are relatively easy to strip DRM from using Calibre.

                    So if you can't find a book anywhere else, at least they don't use a proprietary format and still allow you to download your books using their PC software.

                    I was a semi-early adopter in the ebook space and I have refused to get onboard with the kindle ecosystem from the start. There's no reason for their proprietary format other than complete control over things they pretend to sell you. Amazon is also the Walmart of books and uses their position to browbeat publishers and authors into taking smaller cuts of sales.

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                    Kobo.com DRM is also very easy to bypass and turn into epub using knock

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                    • S [email protected]

                      I just got a Kobo color (don't recommend the color feature; no book is ever going to use it except the red-letter Bible and House of Leaves) and gifted the old Kindle to a friend. I e-reader is an awesome gift actually because for a lot of people it's something they would never evenly in years take a chance on, but that they would love it if they tried.

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                      It’s semi-decent for comics if you massage them a bit

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                      • yingwu@lemmy.dbzer0.comY [email protected]

                        Absurd. Glad I have a Kobo.

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                        Just swapped to a Libra Colour last month and I’m feeling better about the choice every day

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                          It’s semi-decent for comics if you massage them a bit

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                          Massage them…?

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                          • L [email protected]

                            Kobo connected to calibre web is the ultimate freedom/privacy ereader

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                            I’ve got a kobo Clara HD with plenty of pirated books on it, works pretty well, would recommend

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                              That is no different than Kobo. Thus far, Rakuten have been pretty good about not caring more than the bare minimum. But there is nothing stopping them from doing the same bullshit with firmware updates to the kobos and drm updates to the store and apps.

                              I am finally migrating from kindle to kobo (tried kindle to boox last year and it was bad...) but I am under no illusions that I am just hoping one company is better than another. I mean, the other is Amazon so it is a pretty safe bet. But still.

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                              there is nothing stopping them from doing the same bullshit with firmware updates to the kobos and drm updates to the store and apps.

                              I never connect the Libra to any network, how can they do anything? I did actually install some updates since there were a few annoying bugs, but I just downloaded the firmware on the pc from https://pgaskin.net/KoboStuff/kobofirmware.html and updated it offline. Now all those bugs seem fixed and poor Kobo still hasn't seen the interwebs

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                                You know I am starting to think going to the library is a better idea than buying their products. You can literally just walk in.

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                                  Well fuck... Guess i'll need too look at what is available for ebook downloads i my arr stack to get books for my kobo.

                                  The kobo store is mostly useless, and there are limited options available for buying ebooks here, so amazon has been the best option for likely finding what i was looking for.

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                                    This is why I almost never get any Digital Book. The only digital books I have are books that were free either originally or through a giveaway, or that were severely discounted and I already owned physically. That's also why I don't buy movies or TV series digitally. You're just renting these things, and you're only renting them when you have an internet connection.

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                                      This is why I almost never get any Digital Book. The only digital books I have are books that were free either originally or through a giveaway, or that were severely discounted and I already owned physically. That's also why I don't buy movies or TV series digitally. You're just renting these things, and you're only renting them when you have an internet connection.

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                                      You can download and keep countless ebooks from https://annas-archive.org/

                                      🏴‍☠️

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                                      • R [email protected]

                                        I’ve got a kobo Clara HD with plenty of pirated books on it, works pretty well, would recommend

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                                        I have a Clara Color (it was like $10 more for the color version and it gives me a pretty screen when it's powered off) and I absolutely love it. I was not a fan of ebooks until I got it. Turns out what I was not a fan of was all the other ebook readers I tried. I'm reading books on it more frequently than I ever read physical books.

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                                        • roofuskit@lemmy.worldR [email protected]

                                          Kobo and Nook ebooks are still ePUB and easy enough to free from their DRM.

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                                          Technically, official Kobo books are KEPUB, which is their own proprietary version of EPUB they use for their store, but they can read EPUB and other formats just fine. And if they don't, Calibre solves that problem.

                                          (Converting books to KEPUB is sometimes worth it, especially if they have illustrations mixed in with the text, because then you are able to do things more easily like zoom in to the image on the reader.)

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