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  • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

    The only problem I see with that is, even though I’m 40, the government and corporations are all still run by people older than me.

    Hell, some of the folks in Congress are older than my parents.

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    And they've been running it since your parents were younger than you now. This has got to change, get our parents politicians out of office!

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      We only caught German Nazis. In America, Nazis were in power or the heads of major corporations (See Henry Ford).

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      Shit, after operation paperclip it was pretty obvious that high level leadership didn't have that much of an issue with Nazi ideology. It was true then, and it hasn't become any less true as time has separated us from the atrocities they commited.

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      • salty_chief@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        I mean how many people are fleeing America to other countries for asylum(Haiti, China, North Korea, Columbia, etc) ? How many Americans are being bombed daily(Gaza, Ukraine)? How many Americans are being killed because they are in the wrong Tribe(Africa)? How many Americans are arrested for social media post(UK)? How many Americans are getting sick because of no sanitation standards (India)? How many Americans being taxed to pay for illegal migrants arriving by boat loads (UK)?

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        Americans have already been breaking immigration records into other countries this year.

        Americans may not be getting bombed, but the national guard is being called in to enact brutality on protesters in cities that are left leaning. Historically, this type of escalation leads to bloodshed, and is an illegal and heavily fascist tactic.

        People get arrested for social media posts all of the time, virtually everywhere. I don't even know what you're trying to imply here.

        Americans are being deported without due process to facilities in other countries where they will likely die due to being the wrong skin color.

        Americans are getting sick because the current administration has been destroying the EPA, removing the ability to get COVID vaccines, and continuing to prop up a healthcare system that is solely motivated by greed.

        I'm not even touching the xenophobia of the last point, not that any of the points you made were either salient or made in good faith. You're just parroting alt-right talking points.

        Now you'll reply back with some goalpost moving or an ad hominem attack without addressing that you're caught in a lie.

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          Back when they were fighting Nazis instead of being them.

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          Indigenous and African Americans beg to differ.

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            No country has ever been great...especially the U.S. Its greatest period was probably 2015 just before the orange dust settled. Not great, but its greatest.

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              June 6, 1944. Been downhill slide ever since

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                Im Latino indigenous, I grew up in a war where Americans are funding death squads and bombing half the country to keep Russia out of this hemisphere. After America bombed my country and nothing was left, we moved up to the US to follow my country’s stolen wealth to the empire that took it. There we were called wetbacks and spics and told we were streaming jobs and weren’t welcome, go back to your country they would say, you know the country that’s filled with American craters. Now those Americans who wanted Russia out, are sucking Putin cock, and we’re still being rounded up like cattle!
                Move on to Canada eventually and never got over Americans being such monsters.
                These past few years have been wild as even the amaerican leftists have turned racist. I’ve called out a few young people on their anti colonial hypocrisy and anti war stance but only on some wars, etc. Not even against their views, just trying to point out their own colonial past, and I’ll get called all sort of slurs.

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                Now those Americans who wanted Russia out, are sucking Putin cock, and we’re still being rounded up like cattle!

                Well, of course. America is nothing if not a country built on segregation. And there's nothing more cemented in the modern civilized man's consciousness than national borders. You can do anything to a person on the wrong side of a border - beat them, shoot them, enslave them - and its never a crime.

                The modern Russians aren't running around Latin America villainously implying that native peoples are owed civil rights or that the laboring class has some kind of collective right to their surplus. So of course we're cool with them again (and have been since Yeltsin's coup in Moscow back in 1993). Meanwhile, y'all keep thinking you are entitled to basic standards of living just because you've been ludicrously profitable for the domestic economy. Yuge problem!

                These past few years have been wild as even the amaerican leftists have turned racist. I’ve called out a few young people on their anti colonial hypocrisy and anti war stance but only on some wars, etc. Not even against their views, just trying to point out their own colonial past, and I’ll get called all sort of slurs.

                The problem with the internet is that you're going to have communities that are labeled "The Left" and "The Right" and "The Center". But when its on a platform like Reddit or Facebook, it's largely the same moderators pushing the same neoliberal socio-economic views with some partisan pastiche sprinkled over the top.

                People come out of these communities thinking that they're Woke because they don't want to see every gay couple arrested. Or Based because they want industrial era standards of living. Or Radically Centrist because they enjoyed going to college. In the end, they're all a bunch of liberals who mostly hate each other because the TV told them the other two groups were eating babies.

                As soon as you come in with an actual outsider viewpoint, all that partisanship falls away to reveal the hard angry nut of American Nationalism.

                Incidentally, this is why you've got a lot of Reddit expats on .world and its affiliates who really fucking hate the folks posting on the Unmentionable Fediverse sites. Anyone who doesn't think the United States is the shinning beacon of righteousness and liberty is an evil foreigner who wants to run Americans over with a tank.

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                  We only caught German Nazis. In America, Nazis were in power or the heads of major corporations (See Henry Ford).

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                  We only caught German Nazis.

                  And when we caught them, we brought them back to Hunstville, Alabama to make ICBMs for Eisenhower. The fascism was fine, just so long as it was deployed to kill the real enemy - Communists.

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                    Anyone who has seen The Village knows how this ends. It's actually like The Jetsons out there. We were the North Koreans/Sentinelese all along.

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                      Im Latino indigenous, I grew up in a war where Americans are funding death squads and bombing half the country to keep Russia out of this hemisphere. After America bombed my country and nothing was left, we moved up to the US to follow my country’s stolen wealth to the empire that took it. There we were called wetbacks and spics and told we were streaming jobs and weren’t welcome, go back to your country they would say, you know the country that’s filled with American craters. Now those Americans who wanted Russia out, are sucking Putin cock, and we’re still being rounded up like cattle!
                      Move on to Canada eventually and never got over Americans being such monsters.
                      These past few years have been wild as even the amaerican leftists have turned racist. I’ve called out a few young people on their anti colonial hypocrisy and anti war stance but only on some wars, etc. Not even against their views, just trying to point out their own colonial past, and I’ll get called all sort of slurs.

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                      Sorry about all that, but line had to go up. You understand.

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                        Shit, after operation paperclip it was pretty obvious that high level leadership didn't have that much of an issue with Nazi ideology. It was true then, and it hasn't become any less true as time has separated us from the atrocities they commited.

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                        That nostalgia filter though...

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                          1930s-1980s. So when the superrich were supertaxed. Remember 91% income tax in early 1960s?

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                          How to show you're white and don't know and understand the experience of everyone else.

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                            Apparently when white men ran it, women stayed in their place, gays stayed confirmed bachelors, and minorities stayed under the table.

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                              The moon landings were pretty great. Let's just not mention the contributions made by all those ex-Nazis.

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                                How to show you're white and don't know and understand the experience of everyone else.

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                                Others did a better job explaining that this period was far from perfect to a non-American that doesn't always remember all the crucial caveats.

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                                  It was probably pretty chill before a bunch of chodes came over and named it America.

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                                    It was probably pretty chill before a bunch of chodes came over and named it America.

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                                    Ehhhh, fwiw the Native American people had some fairly warlike cultures and long held beefs, we have documented genocides they did on each other.

                                    Humans, generally, suck.

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                                      Back between September 2, 1945 (WW2 end date), and November 1, 1955 (First day US involved in Vietnam). Unless of course you were black. Then it would have been August 28, 1963 (MLK's I have a dream speech date).

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                                        Spicy take incoming: it's pretty great right now. We're a continental country rich in natural resources. We're very friendly with our only two major neighbors, Canada and Mexico, so tits hard to imagine us being attacked over a land border. We have tropical beaches and snow sports 365 days a year, and they all speak English and take dollars. Our universities are some of the best in the world and graduate Nobel Prize winners in arts, sciences, and mathematics. Yes the current American experience sucks but for a lot of people it always has and has even sucked worse. We've experienced massive civil rights expansions over the past three generations.

                                        If you think America sucks you're right, and always were, and always will be, but if you can't think of anything nice to say about it then you're just not paying attention.

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                                          I'm not even American but I laughed at this

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