So so unfair
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For me it didn’t matter what I used, until I tried growing it out and trying long hair. Frizzy hair horrors, until I figured out what hair care process worked for me.
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Like a bar of soap? For my hair?
sure, why not, gel soap is easier to apply tough.
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I wash my very long hair 2-3 times a week and often get compliments from women. Many express some variation of "I wish my hair would grow that long" but none of them like the answer. "I do nothing to it. No heat treatments, no bleach, no color, no tight braids, no styling. Shampoo approximately every other day and condition weekly."
(Dish soap would probably strip the natural oils too aggressively, even for short hair. Rough on the scalp.)
wrote last edited by [email protected]I also get those compliments and I also just use shampoo and conditioner (once or twice a week). When I travel and use hotel shampoo/conditioner my hair usually feels noticably worse after (sometimes the hotel stuff is actually nice though).
I think a lot of it is genetics, and not coloring or bleaching or anything also helps a lot. But conditioner is great and not a scam (and I don't let the male targeted 2 in 1 soap/shampoo stuff anywhere near my hair anymore, that was noticably worse as well)
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Counterpoint: look at any rock band from the 1970s to see what just plain washing with shampoo (very occasionally, apparently) produces. If they ever invent time travel, I'm going to let everybody else handle killing baby hitler (and baby cheetoh I suppose) and go back to the '70s with some conditioner. I will rule the rock world!
Edit: I might also try at least mentioning to people how fucked up it was that these guys were raping 14-year-old girls all the time (and sometimes the same 14-year-old girl).
Ah yes. Hair, and bdw raping children. Can't have a day without genocide and paedophilia.
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For me it didn’t matter what I used, until I tried growing it out and trying long hair. Frizzy hair horrors, until I figured out what hair care process worked for me.
Jojoba oil and grapeseed oil are a game changer.
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That's not true.
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sure, why not, gel soap is easier to apply tough.
I'm a woman and I had to use soap before (in a trip) and ooohh boy my hair was so dry It wouldn't move
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It's always kind of amused me how grunge rock was marketed as a fresh air alternative to hair bands, and yet ... everybody still featured long hair.
There is long hair and then there is hair metal. It's not the length, it's that it's propped up with a can of Style.
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Bald of you to not.
I wish I thought of this shiny new pun at the time.
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Shampoo is a scam!! use soap.
s/scam/sham/
It was right there!
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I literally don't use soap or conditioner in my hair except right before I get it cut. They are always like "wow! You have such healthy hair!" Your hair will take care of itself.
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Dishwashing liquid? That’s just good bedhead.
Well, technically, good bedhead is something much more satisfying, but I hope y’all get my drift.
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Can I share this in [email protected]
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Cis man here with long hair. My hair is super thin and breaks like crazy. I went to dermatologist (thought I was going bald lol) and it seems that hair changes a lot between people and some advice I've seen online isn't as general as much as people think, like not washing your hair everyday (she told me my hair NEEDS to be washed everyday cause it gets mega oily quickly).
But yeah, longer hair needs more care for sure, like, I had never used hair conditioner before but now it's a must, started using a hair drier sometimes too. I used to think that women taking a long time to shower and get ready we're just slow but fuck, long hair is a lot of work.
I'd been scrolling through the comments, contemplating sharing my own "dish soap" story, when your comment and the one above both inspired different anecdotes. So although I'm responding to you, I'm just going to go ahead and tie all these topics into one post:
My hair is like yours. I'm a woman (though I don't feel right saying "cis," since I don't really "get" gender) and have very fine hair on a very oily scalp. Like you, I cannot go a day without washing my hair, lest I encounter issues. 24 hours without a wash is obvious, by sight, by touch, and possibly by smell (if you were to get close.) I wish people would stop spreading that no-wash "advice" as if it'll 100% work for everyone of every hair/skin type. For some of us, it can actually make problems worse.
I also had a time where I was losing my hair (unrelated to hygiene.) It turned out to be a hormone thing - but not in the way the above commenter hypothesized it would. My estrogen levels were low, which meant my testosterone levels were relatively high. Rather than fortifying my hair, testosterone was making my hair thinner, and the result resembled male pattern balding. Thank fuck, going on an estrogen pill managed to correct and even reverse most of the damage. (Though now I fear the US government trying to take away my birth control, which is actually "magical hair maintenance pills" in my mind. But that's another topic for another day.) Either way, hormones absolutely play a role in hair. Pregnancy and its cocktail of hormones is well-known to cause changes in hair thickness, texture, and even color. However, there are too many variables to precisely pin any one particular effect to any one particular hormone across every single person. For me, estrogen vastly improved my hair. Others' results may vary.
As to dish soap, I was around 11-13, middle school age. A (female) friend had said she used dish soap instead of shampoo. I was curious and decided to try it. It worked to wash my hair all right, but my hair didn't feel the same afterwards. It's hard to recall by now exactly what was different, but there was something about the resulting texture that was off. I've tried a number of different types of shampoo throughout my life, but every single one of them provided a certain result that dish soap couldn't provide. So although it might suffice for some people, I'll have to add "dish soap as shampoo" to the "things that personally don't work for me" box.
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Length and type of hair is what matters. Men with a typical short haircut with straight hair do not benefit from conditioner.
wrote last edited by [email protected]As a man with straight hair that is usually on the shorter side I can tell you I get a distinct difference between shampoo only, and shampoo then conditioner. I get a similar effect from 2 in 1 that I just use that... I notice a benefit from 2 applications though (people will actively comment on how soft it looks and ask if I did something different), it is diminished after 2 though.
I try to only wash my hair a few times a week though when it feels too greasy (longer it gets the quicker this happens) and water isn't enough, usually don't bother with the double wash though.
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As a man with straight hair that is usually on the shorter side I can tell you I get a distinct difference between shampoo only, and shampoo then conditioner. I get a similar effect from 2 in 1 that I just use that... I notice a benefit from 2 applications though (people will actively comment on how soft it looks and ask if I did something different), it is diminished after 2 though.
I try to only wash my hair a few times a week though when it feels too greasy (longer it gets the quicker this happens) and water isn't enough, usually don't bother with the double wash though.
Yes, it certainly isn't universally true that not all short hair needs conditioner but it is more universally true that long hair does which is why women have more hair products.
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Yes, it certainly isn't universally true that not all short hair needs conditioner but it is more universally true that long hair does which is why women have more hair products.
I feel marketing is a not insignificant difference as well. But if it helps people feel better about themselves who cares.
