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[News] Madleen Gaza flotilla live tracker: Israeli forces intercept the Madleen, cut off comms

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  • F [email protected]

    Umm... Yay reductive reasoning? šŸ˜

    Seriously, your argument is bunk.

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    So then what's the plan now. How are the Palestinians going to get these resources

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    • M [email protected]

      But who are you showing this too?

      People who already know, already know.

      Showing things isn't going to feed Palestinians.

      If this was doomed to fail from the start. I'm a bit frustrated by it.

      What I'm frustrated by is how the right figures out ways that does counter efforts to stop them. I'm noticing that the left does the opposite. They lean into the things that stop them and then hope somebody notices.

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      Will you believe me if I said that right-wingers have infiltrated left-wing spaces ?

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      • mitm0@lemmy.worldM [email protected]

        Will you believe me if I said that right-wingers have infiltrated left-wing spaces ?

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        Yea of course. But infiltrating is an interesting way of putting it.

        Years ago the Internet wasn't segregated. Sad to see were describing spaces as left or right and having people use them as infiltrating.

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        • M [email protected]

          But who are you showing this too?

          People who already know, already know.

          Showing things isn't going to feed Palestinians.

          If this was doomed to fail from the start. I'm a bit frustrated by it.

          What I'm frustrated by is how the right figures out ways that does counter efforts to stop them. I'm noticing that the left does the opposite. They lean into the things that stop them and then hope somebody notices.

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          Many people get fooled by the west so called targeted sanctions. Actions like that show that they are still complicit and may revive large protests again. If it was a country like china or iran kidnapping western countries people there response would be on another level

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          • korsystems@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

            Arrested in international waters, yet another crime committed by Israel. There's also a Member of the European Parliament on board. The EU is going to lie down when it should be intervening militarily in Israel to free them from fascism.

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            You'd have to re-educate the Israeli people somehow too. There's very strong popular support for this genocide.

            A poll found that 82% of full citizens of Israel want to expel Palestinians from Gaza. 47% want to kill every single man, woman, and child in Gaza.

            https://geopoliticaleconomy.com/2025/05/30/poll-israelis-expel-palestinians-gaza-genocide/

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            • M [email protected]

              Great on these people.

              But why do the left's plans always be like

              1. Theatrical disobedience
              2. ????????
              3. Get arrested
              4. Move on to the next thing, repeat steps 1-4
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              #16

              Why don't you write out for us, on this unencrypted and public platform, what you're proposing?

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              • R [email protected]

                Many people get fooled by the west so called targeted sanctions. Actions like that show that they are still complicit and may revive large protests again. If it was a country like china or iran kidnapping western countries people there response would be on another level

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                Which goes back to my point about this being theatrics rather than actual aid

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                • M [email protected]

                  Which goes back to my point about this being theatrics rather than actual aid

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                  Is showing that israel is effectively controlling gaza and use food as a bargainning power really theatrical and the whole west are sucking israel D?

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                  • W [email protected]

                    Why don't you write out for us, on this unencrypted and public platform, what you're proposing?

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                    I don't know, borrow that sub marine from the cartels.

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                    • korsystems@lemmy.mlK [email protected]

                      Arrested in international waters, yet another crime committed by Israel. There's also a Member of the European Parliament on board. The EU is going to lie down when it should be intervening militarily in Israel to free them from fascism.

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                      The EU is going to lie down when it should be intervening militarily in Israel to free them from fascism.

                      With what power, when we apparently cannot even protect EU/NATO hopeful Ukraine from fascist Russia properly, even when almost every EU country supports Ukraine? Gaza is not exactly first priority right now, and it's not exactly on our side.

                      So far, I have been told no good reason why Gaza in particular deserves help from our extremely limited resources.

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                      • R [email protected]

                        When they were being surrounded: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKqAm25TCSa/

                        Greta's msg:
                        https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKqP-2QMVwP/

                        Inside video
                        https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKqO0IHoC4K/

                        I don't know for sure but it seems they were in international waters during the kidnap

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                        International Maritime Law isn't some sort of a free-for-all zone. Most significantly there are exceptions for countries that are in an armed conflic, which Israel definitely is.

                        Israel and Egypt are blockading Gaza in accordance to international law. Essential civilian supplies like food and medicine obviously cannot be blocked though, so that part (if true) is indeed illegal. But interdicting ships that might be providing contraband to an enemy can be legal, even on the high seas.

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                        • R [email protected]

                          Is showing that israel is effectively controlling gaza and use food as a bargainning power really theatrical and the whole west are sucking israel D?

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                          Did they show that? To who? It's like showing that Americans like steak houses. What was gained here. And I keep asking myself this with the left "what did we get out of this" and so far it's almost always "theater" of some kind instead of effective action

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                          • W [email protected]

                            Why don't you write out for us, on this unencrypted and public platform, what you're proposing?

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                            Don't be left?

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                            • V [email protected]

                              The EU is going to lie down when it should be intervening militarily in Israel to free them from fascism.

                              With what power, when we apparently cannot even protect EU/NATO hopeful Ukraine from fascist Russia properly, even when almost every EU country supports Ukraine? Gaza is not exactly first priority right now, and it's not exactly on our side.

                              So far, I have been told no good reason why Gaza in particular deserves help from our extremely limited resources.

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                              Do you really think russia would win if whole nato attack them?

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                              • V [email protected]

                                International Maritime Law isn't some sort of a free-for-all zone. Most significantly there are exceptions for countries that are in an armed conflic, which Israel definitely is.

                                Israel and Egypt are blockading Gaza in accordance to international law. Essential civilian supplies like food and medicine obviously cannot be blocked though, so that part (if true) is indeed illegal. But interdicting ships that might be providing contraband to an enemy can be legal, even on the high seas.

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                                The blockade was declared illegal , israel as the occupying force has the obligation to allow food to enter

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