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[News] Madleen Gaza flotilla live tracker: Israeli forces intercept the Madleen, cut off comms

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  • M [email protected]

    Great on these people.

    But why do the left's plans always be like

    1. Theatrical disobedience
    2. ????????
    3. Get arrested
    4. Move on to the next thing, repeat steps 1-4
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    Why don't you write out for us, on this unencrypted and public platform, what you're proposing?

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      Many people get fooled by the west so called targeted sanctions. Actions like that show that they are still complicit and may revive large protests again. If it was a country like china or iran kidnapping western countries people there response would be on another level

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      Which goes back to my point about this being theatrics rather than actual aid

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      • M [email protected]

        Which goes back to my point about this being theatrics rather than actual aid

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        Is showing that israel is effectively controlling gaza and use food as a bargainning power really theatrical and the whole west are sucking israel D?

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        • W [email protected]

          Why don't you write out for us, on this unencrypted and public platform, what you're proposing?

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          I don't know, borrow that sub marine from the cartels.

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            Arrested in international waters, yet another crime committed by Israel. There's also a Member of the European Parliament on board. The EU is going to lie down when it should be intervening militarily in Israel to free them from fascism.

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            The EU is going to lie down when it should be intervening militarily in Israel to free them from fascism.

            With what power, when we apparently cannot even protect EU/NATO hopeful Ukraine from fascist Russia properly, even when almost every EU country supports Ukraine? Gaza is not exactly first priority right now, and it's not exactly on our side.

            So far, I have been told no good reason why Gaza in particular deserves help from our extremely limited resources.

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              When they were being surrounded: https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKqAm25TCSa/

              Greta's msg:
              https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKqP-2QMVwP/

              Inside video
              https://www.instagram.com/reel/DKqO0IHoC4K/

              I don't know for sure but it seems they were in international waters during the kidnap

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              International Maritime Law isn't some sort of a free-for-all zone. Most significantly there are exceptions for countries that are in an armed conflic, which Israel definitely is.

              Israel and Egypt are blockading Gaza in accordance to international law. Essential civilian supplies like food and medicine obviously cannot be blocked though, so that part (if true) is indeed illegal. But interdicting ships that might be providing contraband to an enemy can be legal, even on the high seas.

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                Is showing that israel is effectively controlling gaza and use food as a bargainning power really theatrical and the whole west are sucking israel D?

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                Did they show that? To who? It's like showing that Americans like steak houses. What was gained here. And I keep asking myself this with the left "what did we get out of this" and so far it's almost always "theater" of some kind instead of effective action

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                  Why don't you write out for us, on this unencrypted and public platform, what you're proposing?

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                  Don't be left?

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                    The EU is going to lie down when it should be intervening militarily in Israel to free them from fascism.

                    With what power, when we apparently cannot even protect EU/NATO hopeful Ukraine from fascist Russia properly, even when almost every EU country supports Ukraine? Gaza is not exactly first priority right now, and it's not exactly on our side.

                    So far, I have been told no good reason why Gaza in particular deserves help from our extremely limited resources.

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                    Do you really think russia would win if whole nato attack them?

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                      International Maritime Law isn't some sort of a free-for-all zone. Most significantly there are exceptions for countries that are in an armed conflic, which Israel definitely is.

                      Israel and Egypt are blockading Gaza in accordance to international law. Essential civilian supplies like food and medicine obviously cannot be blocked though, so that part (if true) is indeed illegal. But interdicting ships that might be providing contraband to an enemy can be legal, even on the high seas.

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                      The blockade was declared illegal , israel as the occupying force has the obligation to allow food to enter

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