Trump tariffs result in 10% laptop price hike in U.S. says Acer CEO
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That 10-year time horizon is a very good point. And it's not likely that the tariff would stick around that long since every four years has a changing administration who can do whatever they please in those regards.
Personally, for me anyway, I am a Monero holder and am seeing prices fall fairly rapidly. For example, a thing of beard oil in October of 2024 was 72.9mXMR and is now 61.11mXMR (-16.2%).
The thing is, tariffs aren't new. Manufacturing (or the lack thereof) in the US isn't new... the only NEW thing appears to be voters that can be led around by the nose and lacking any kind of critical thought altogether. What % of people that voted for tariffs thought that China'd be paying for them? Probably the same folks who thought Mexico was going to build the wall and pay for it. Last time I checked, I don't think we've received any money from Mexico for this.
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Guess I'm 10% less likely to buy one then. If crashing consumer confidence is the goal you're well on your way Mr President.
We're not the consumers Trump cares about
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That 10-year time horizon is a very good point. And it's not likely that the tariff would stick around that long since every four years has a changing administration who can do whatever they please in those regards.
Personally, for me anyway, I am a Monero holder and am seeing prices fall fairly rapidly. For example, a thing of beard oil in October of 2024 was 72.9mXMR and is now 61.11mXMR (-16.2%).
That 10-year time horizon is a very good point. And it's not likely that the tariff would stick around that long since every four years has a changing administration who can do whatever they please in those regards.
Lol, you guys are hilarious. I keep seeing these comments.
Fascists don't allow fair elections.
The only way the magats are leaving office is mass insurrection / mass protests & strikes or revolution.
It most certainly won't happen at the ballot box
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We're not the consumers Trump cares about
Follow the money. Where do the tariffs end up?
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I'm not totally sure how those lease programs to companies work. Once the laptops are replaced, I know some of them will obviously be unusable and have to be destroyed. But there should be laptops that are in perfectly fine condition. And what happens to those if they get put on the second hand market you could buy them from their and the company paid the "new" tax. Now to make up for that, the company could either raise their prices on their items or if they don't want to lose sales, they could eat it.
i work in refurbishment of the leased devices. basically laptops are either bought, or returned to a 3rd party business, to be processed and resold to a business who resells, or to another business that wants cheap devices .
these are businesses, there wont be a demand drop because business' do not behave like consumers. a good chunk of them will at times, buy things they might not need.
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Guess I'm 10% less likely to buy one then. If crashing consumer confidence is the goal you're well on your way Mr President.
I think you're being too generous. I'm probably not alone in saying that a 10% price increase gives me 0% interest in buying a new laptop.
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Follow the money. Where do the tariffs end up?
In the government’s coffers
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In the government’s coffers
Which then get used to buy Spacex and Tesla merch.
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I think you're being too generous. I'm probably not alone in saying that a 10% price increase gives me 0% interest in buying a new laptop.
Regardless I'm not buying a new laptop. My 15 year old netbook is chugging along and if it suddenly died I'd sooner rehab another used one rather than make this economy look in any way good by buying new.
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Guess I'm 10% less likely to buy one then. If crashing consumer confidence is the goal you're well on your way Mr President.
TBF I was always 100% less likely to buy an Acer.
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the majority of laptops dont come from companies like acer. the majority of them are leased by dell/lenovo/hp to businesses. all this does is hurt acer. and businesses require the laptops to function so the major total of laptops isnt changing much.
also tariffs doesnt automatically create rise of US production. it can also have the opposite effect. E.g during trumps last term, boutique case maker CaseLabs went out of business due to tariffs on aluminum prices. You know which case companies survived? the ones that kept production in asia.
all this does is hurt acer
I don’t think it will necessarily hurt them if other brands follow suit. It will hurt the consumers, that is.
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IT'S OFFICIAL, FOLKS! Trump thinks he can just slap tariffs on our friends abroad and watch us 'compete' again? Newsflash: this only hurts the little guy (and the planet). Just got word from Acer CEO that those tariffs have already led to a 10% price hike for laptops in the US. That's right, we're paying more for the very devices that are supposed to help us succeed in an era of 'American greatness'. Meanwhile, Trump is too busy coddling his corporate pals to care about the real American people. Wake up, sheeple! It's time to stop voting for politicians who only look out for their buddies on Wall Street.
Winning!
So much for a free market.
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How exactly does this hurt the planet? If the United States imports fewer laptops, then that means there are less laptops coming over on ships from China which saves fuel. If tariffs cause a rise in US production, then the production of the product is closer to the end consumer, again saving fuel.
Check the labels of all the stuff in your apartment to see how much of it is made in USA, you will find barely anything that isn't a consumable is made in the US, local manufacturing was shut down decades ago as all of that got outsourced to cheaper countries in the bottomless chase for profit by greedy corporations. So why are tariffs an issue, cause there ain't any local companies making laptops for Americans to buy, and you can't just stop buying goods that society relies on, so people are forced to pay more to buy the imported goods, so you will be paying more money for these things while it takes decades to ramp up local manufacturing again and train the workers etc. if that were to even happen
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If they cost more, it would also disincentivize spending on the laptop unless it's necessary. So theoretically fewer laptops should come over. If you don't buy a laptop because your laptop isn't really in need of replacement, then you just saved 100%. Or you could also buy a used laptop that's newer than the one you have from somebody else in good condition and save some percentage of what you would have paid for the new one anyway.
Just as an example, I'm rocking a laptop from 2014 with an Intel 3rd generation Core i7. Obviously the newest Intel is the 13th generation, but you can find Intel 7th and 8th generation laptops which are much newer than mine for decent prices.
Laptops aren't funko pops, no one's buying extra cause they want to get one in every color. People buy them out of necessity. So no this isn't gonna discourage anything, maybe it'll get people to try and repair their older laptops, but because of corporate greed, most modern laptops aren't designed for repair ability, rather they go out of their way to make it harder to repair, and they don't release sufficient schematics and spare parts needed for repair, not to mention there are only so many technicians or tech savvy people with the know how to repair them.
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IT'S OFFICIAL, FOLKS! Trump thinks he can just slap tariffs on our friends abroad and watch us 'compete' again? Newsflash: this only hurts the little guy (and the planet). Just got word from Acer CEO that those tariffs have already led to a 10% price hike for laptops in the US. That's right, we're paying more for the very devices that are supposed to help us succeed in an era of 'American greatness'. Meanwhile, Trump is too busy coddling his corporate pals to care about the real American people. Wake up, sheeple! It's time to stop voting for politicians who only look out for their buddies on Wall Street.
MAGAts be like: "I don't own a computer since I got a smartphone, it's good enough for checking my e-mails and facebook account, so it doesn't bother me."
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Check the labels of all the stuff in your apartment to see how much of it is made in USA, you will find barely anything that isn't a consumable is made in the US, local manufacturing was shut down decades ago as all of that got outsourced to cheaper countries in the bottomless chase for profit by greedy corporations. So why are tariffs an issue, cause there ain't any local companies making laptops for Americans to buy, and you can't just stop buying goods that society relies on, so people are forced to pay more to buy the imported goods, so you will be paying more money for these things while it takes decades to ramp up local manufacturing again and train the workers etc. if that were to even happen
Chicken and egg problem. Tariffs can make work or products once deemed unprofitable, profitable once more. It is likely, the US already has computer production facilities which may at this point not profitable to scale up or enter a consumer market. Intels CPUs are produced in the states already, maybe what stopped a vendor from using them in their own laptops was strong market competition which may now be lower due to tariffs? What Im trying to say, though, is that it will take time to see the results of Trumps market intervention. In the immediate future, Acer laptops will increase in price, long term.. we can only speculate.
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That 10-year time horizon is a very good point. And it's not likely that the tariff would stick around that long since every four years has a changing administration who can do whatever they please in those regards.
Lol, you guys are hilarious. I keep seeing these comments.
Fascists don't allow fair elections.
The only way the magats are leaving office is mass insurrection / mass protests & strikes or revolution.
It most certainly won't happen at the ballot box
I hope there is a prediction market on this at some point because I do not think it's likely that they will be able to block elections. I'd love to put my money where my mouth is.
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I hope there is a prediction market on this at some point because I do not think it's likely that they will be able to block elections. I'd love to put my money where my mouth is.
Oh they won't stop / block the elections initially they'll hold that first one & just conveniently get 75+% of the vote like every dictator before him.
I'm happy to put money on it if you can find a market. I've been unfortunately right too much, not because I'm smart but because you can literally pull out a history of Nazi rise and map it onto MAGA and the last 10 years. The only hard bit is guessing the timings, not what, just when.
I'd really like you guys to break out of this and prove me wrong
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Oh they won't stop / block the elections initially they'll hold that first one & just conveniently get 75+% of the vote like every dictator before him.
I'm happy to put money on it if you can find a market. I've been unfortunately right too much, not because I'm smart but because you can literally pull out a history of Nazi rise and map it onto MAGA and the last 10 years. The only hard bit is guessing the timings, not what, just when.
I'd really like you guys to break out of this and prove me wrong
Here you go friend: this is a prediction market on whether the Republicans or Democrats will win the house next year: https://kalshi.com/markets/controlh/house-winner
If your prediction is right and there are no more elections this will be easy money for you.
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Here you go friend: this is a prediction market on whether the Republicans or Democrats will win the house next year: https://kalshi.com/markets/controlh/house-winner
If your prediction is right and there are no more elections this will be easy money for you.
Ok, but this isn't a betting site, this is an options contract, which given the current price split of 73c:28c is not a good buy (winning isn't profitable and you're tying your money up for 2years).
The price however is inline with my statement - that market considers a GOP win a near certainty.
I've checked the mainstream betting sites and GOP are solidly odds on (4/6 on through 8/13on) which isnt hugely profitable but I guess it'll shorten even further
Edit to add odds screencap
