Bazzite founder might shutdown whole project if Fedora drops support for 32 bit packages
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Did he elaborate on why? Is it really that integral to have 32bit tools?
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yes, and from what I understood:
- Steam is still 32bit. Two-thirds of Bazzite's user base use the OS on handhelds requiring Steam's gaming mode front-end. Installing Steam as a flatpak removes the ability to boot into gaming mode, and so alienating two-thirds of Bazzite's user base.
- It will kill support for older games that are still 32bit. Wine's WoW64 isn't ready yet, and even so, building custom Proton for 32bit support (e.g. Including all the 32bit libraries inside of Proton itself) on top of the Proton provided by Valve is going to be very messy.
- OBS requires 32bit packages to capture video data from 32bit games. If 32bit is no longer supported, this'll kill streamers playing older games (OBS is probably the most widely used software by streamers and game recorders).
- It would kill VR on Bazzite, as VR still makes use of 32bit features (I'm not sure why or which ones, but that's what's said).
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I go with CachyOs
Ik ik the compiler optimizations only give a minor difference and maybe major in latency but am just comfy with it.
I just like how minimal is the distroCachyos has some great default setup choices too. Limine with btrfs + snapper, all preconfigured.. spot on!
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Dammit - found Bazzite one week ago and love it - now its embroiled in a controversy.
Dw, this will pass - there is too much passion in the project, and too many with stakes in it too. If it is installed on so many people's systems, we will have many people eager to see this continue also.
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Cachyos has some great default setup choices too. Limine with btrfs + snapper, all preconfigured.. spot on!
Ohh yeah true I forgot they offer alterntive bootloaders that arent grub
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Why would they not just use an Arch base like the real SteamOS does?
I used EndeavorOS in the past which was a successor to AntergOS, both arch based, with gui installer and easy nvidia driver setup, they both worked like a charm without any issues (unlike fucking Manjaro).
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Dammit - found Bazzite one week ago and love it - now its embroiled in a controversy.
wrote last edited by [email protected]If it helps at all some of the comments in the linked discussion mentions it's at minimum a year out
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base your whole project on a corporate Nazi shill company like IBM and find out.
watchu talkin bout mate
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Fedora and Red Hat are innovating image-based operating systems. Universal Blue builds on that work.
It would take effort to port that work to Arch. Arch is also a rolling distro, not updating means not getting security updates. Fedora's release cycle allows them to get more stability, they don't have to be using the latest version.
wrote last edited by [email protected]i think the effort has already been made, unless i'm misunderstanding what cachyos is
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I went to Garuda
THERE'S DOZENS OF US, DOZENS!!
Hell yeah brother, make it 11 of us!
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Instead of shutting down why not choose another distro base
Probably a lot of time and work to do so, they've spent a lot of time learning what tweaks Fedora needs.
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Honestly go for EnOS. Garuda is neat and has a good default setup, but they've gone a little far with their modifications imo
There is a lite version, but sure whatever you prefer.
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Until they distro hop back to Windows because they just want shit to work.
Skill issue.
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See. This is why I game only on Windows. There’s never any controversy or issues there. /s
I’ll see myself out now.
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The comments in the thread don't mention Steam itself, but it's that running all the 32 bit games will become a problem. Steam's flatpak packages the 32 bit packages so that can get around this change, but the flatpak is not official and does not support all features. Steam themselves only provide the RPM for Fedora.
What features are missing on flatpak version? I am playing games that way without any issues...
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Pop! OS with big screen mode on second display/workspace is the best of both worlds.
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Hell yeah brother, make it 11 of us!
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god these names just sound the fucking same, garudo nobara banuda ronada, talking about linux gaming distros is liable to summon a demon
I guarantee you will summon a number of daemons running any of them though!
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It seems to me that 16-bit applications are already basically broken with 32-bit wine if you're running a 64-bit kernel, by default it places extra restrictions over what the hardware already does to prevent apps from loading 16-bit code entirely.
https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/FAQ#16-bit-applications-fail-to-start
Guessing that's why they don't feel it's that important to continue supporting, seems a VM is the future for these apps.
Yeah most 16 bit stuff is old enough that there's already a mature reimplementation of the game engine or old enough that it'll run nicely in a translation layer or VM
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where we goin
Over there!
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watchu talkin bout mate
Red hat is owned by IBM which is a Nazi enabling mega corpo
