Trump says EU must buy $350B of US energy to get tariff relief
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And what guarantees does Europe have he won't just flip the deal on a whim? This guy and these tactics deserve no quarter.
And what guarantees does Europe have he won’t just flip the deal on a whim?
Nothing. Even worse: he actually wants to be able to flip the deal whenever he feels like it.
This guy is not a "partner" as in a contractual sense but a mobster who wants to use every measure to gain an advantage.
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Wtf - the EU imported 15-20b on LNG in 2024 - how does it make any sense to increase LNG imports by 15-20 times while claiming to decarbonize? Or is the plan to just weave the 350B debt and then be left holding the proverbial LNG bag?
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And what guarantees does Europe have he won’t just flip the deal on a whim?
Nothing. Even worse: he actually wants to be able to flip the deal whenever he feels like it.
This guy is not a "partner" as in a contractual sense but a mobster who wants to use every measure to gain an advantage.
I agree. From the article:
"If we can make a really fair deal and a good deal for the United States, not a good deal for others, this is America first. It's now America first."
This is such an insane thing to say and it reveals a lot. Why on earth would anyone enter in to a trade deal, or even negotiations, if the other party only accepts one sided benefits? Any sane actor not under duress will reject any such notions out of hand. A good trade deal benefits both sides. This should be elementary.
Now, I'm no professional, but it looks to me that none of this is about the best interests of the USA or it's citizens; this is all to serve one man's ego. Trump's thinking is so disordered he views any concessions as a narcissistic injury. Anything but complete domination is out of question, since it breaks his carefully cultivated sense of omnipotence, of being the biggest and strongest man in the room. His ego is so fragile it cannot sustain the slightest challenge to the false self. All of this, the trade wars, even becoming the POTUS, it's all about one thing: trying to silence that nagging voice that tells him he's worthless. Nothing will ever be enough to quell that inner critic, which is why he always escalates.
There is no room for any deals with this guy and his sycophants. They will just demand more.
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I agree. From the article:
"If we can make a really fair deal and a good deal for the United States, not a good deal for others, this is America first. It's now America first."
This is such an insane thing to say and it reveals a lot. Why on earth would anyone enter in to a trade deal, or even negotiations, if the other party only accepts one sided benefits? Any sane actor not under duress will reject any such notions out of hand. A good trade deal benefits both sides. This should be elementary.
Now, I'm no professional, but it looks to me that none of this is about the best interests of the USA or it's citizens; this is all to serve one man's ego. Trump's thinking is so disordered he views any concessions as a narcissistic injury. Anything but complete domination is out of question, since it breaks his carefully cultivated sense of omnipotence, of being the biggest and strongest man in the room. His ego is so fragile it cannot sustain the slightest challenge to the false self. All of this, the trade wars, even becoming the POTUS, it's all about one thing: trying to silence that nagging voice that tells him he's worthless. Nothing will ever be enough to quell that inner critic, which is why he always escalates.
There is no room for any deals with this guy and his sycophants. They will just demand more.
There is no room for any deals with this guy and his sycophants. They will just demand more.
Exactly. That's why it is so important not to give in to him and instead answer in the only language that guy understands: relentless pressure.
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And what guarantees does Europe have he won't just flip the deal on a whim? This guy and these tactics deserve no quarter.
The trade agreement with Canada and Mexico that Trump signed in his first term will be up for review next year, but he decided to "negotiate" with tariffs this year instead. Any country can look at how Trump has handled the USMCA for a preview of how an agreement with Trump will go.
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That bowling ball comment from Trump is prime example of talking about shit without understanding said shit. The car is suppose to fucking dent from it! It's why Cyberdick car isn't allowed in Europe, it doesn't dent when you run over a person. I'd explain the physics behind it, but Trumps avocado brain is too fucking stupid to ever understand that.
He exclusively talks about things he doesn't understand,
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Best I can do is to boycott all US products.
I'm doing my part too 🫡
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Wtf - the EU imported 15-20b on LNG in 2024 - how does it make any sense to increase LNG imports by 15-20 times while claiming to decarbonize? Or is the plan to just weave the 350B debt and then be left holding the proverbial LNG bag?
how does it make any sense to increase LNG imports by 15-20 times while claiming to decarbonize?
You mean from EU side? I don't think Trump cares about decarbonization or EU efforts regarding it.
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As an American my advise is for Europe to give Trump the middle finger and let it all fall apart. I don't want our country to die ugly, and I sure as hell never voted for it. But if our hardship leads to the downfall of the Orange Jackass and his whole damned cult, then so be it. With any luck that'll happen before I end up disappeared or thrown into one of Roadkill Kennedy's internment camps for people who take SSRIs.
I recognize that this comes from a place of extraordinary privilege, and I hope you do too...but I kinda agree. Let's just get the collapse of the US over with so we can rebuild. Quit dragging our feet on it, it's just gonna make things worse in the long term.
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How much is that in solar and wind power?
IDK, I imagine the US is lagging behind China in that, especially now, if we're looking at foreign imports.
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Fuck that
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Please, European countries, and even China for that fact, please don't give in. Make tRump eat shit for this stupid bully tactic. He's turned the US into the kiddie table all the parents ignore.
I'm a visual thinker, trump eating shit might be my best visual thought of today.
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Surely there is zero political support for this in Europe. Of course we're hurting badly from the tariffs, but at least in my circle I don't see anyone supporting bending over to any demand he sends us.
Almost as soon as Trump was reelected, von der Leyen suggested opening negotiations to buy more American liquefied natural gas (LNG). But POLITICO reported that the U.S. had, in response, offered no clarity about how a deal would work.
Don't quite follow this though, does the EU need more fossil fuels? Aren't we moving away from it? Is this aimed at replacing russian natural gas?
I mean we do still import Russian oil and gas that could be replaced this way. Still, this is not about what the EU needs, it's a proactive offering of protection money. They forgot that Trump needs it to have been his pressure that made us bend the knee, not our own initiative, otherwise he won't look strong.
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The ridiculous thing is, digital earnings like the billions from Meta, Google etc. are not getting counted into the trade by Americans. Wonder how the trade deficit would look like if we did that. Apart from that, nobody wants to buy your ugly cars here, they wouldn't even fit to our streets. It's not like you couldn't produce something for the European market, if you wanted. Nobody is interested in something like the Ford F150
If services are included, we're almost even.
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Send in the clowns!
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I mean we do still import Russian oil and gas that could be replaced this way. Still, this is not about what the EU needs, it's a proactive offering of protection money. They forgot that Trump needs it to have been his pressure that made us bend the knee, not our own initiative, otherwise he won't look strong.
We are? I was under the impression that this had stopped, and that we now only do so indirectly in ways that are difficult to track (e.g. India importing raw materials from Russia, refining and shipping it to Europe).
Fully agree with your analysis that most of this is about Trumps ego and an attempt at asserting power.
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how does it make any sense to increase LNG imports by 15-20 times while claiming to decarbonize?
You mean from EU side? I don't think Trump cares about decarbonization or EU efforts regarding it.
yep, Europe really ought to not cave into the demand to buy up more LNG and instead focus on developing their own renewable energy base instead
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As an American my advise is for Europe to give Trump the middle finger and let it all fall apart. I don't want our country to die ugly, and I sure as hell never voted for it. But if our hardship leads to the downfall of the Orange Jackass and his whole damned cult, then so be it. With any luck that'll happen before I end up disappeared or thrown into one of Roadkill Kennedy's internment camps for people who take SSRIs.
Its a sacrifice we're willing to make.
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And what guarantees does Europe have he won’t just flip the deal on a whim?
Nothing. Even worse: he actually wants to be able to flip the deal whenever he feels like it.
This guy is not a "partner" as in a contractual sense but a mobster who wants to use every measure to gain an advantage.
Even mobsters have longterm goals and know the value of a beneficial partnership. Trump and his chumps are just looking to grift as much as possible.
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We are? I was under the impression that this had stopped, and that we now only do so indirectly in ways that are difficult to track (e.g. India importing raw materials from Russia, refining and shipping it to Europe).
Fully agree with your analysis that most of this is about Trumps ego and an attempt at asserting power.
I was under the impression that this had stopped
