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Mods react as Reddit kicks some of them out again: “This will break the site”

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  • umbraroze@slrpnk.netU [email protected]

    Limiting the power mod reach is a good thing, but still, this will break Reddit. Ordinary users will not be lining up to step in as small time moderators. Especially if Reddit Inc is going to remove them if they do anything they don't like.

    Reddit Inc will just go "what the hell, we'll throw more AI shit in the Automoderator. It's not like it'll do worse than the current arbitrary quagmire of moderation rules - or maybe it will be, who can tell the difference anyway".

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    Killing super-mods would have been much more effective 5 years ago, back when there were still lots quality moderators in small subreddits. I remember people screaming for years this was a problem they needed to do something about.

    However, during the last blackout (triggered by Reddit killing off 3rd party apps), Reddit removed hundreds (thousands?) of moderators who wouldn't toe the party line. These people aren't coming back and there aren't quality people lined up behind them to donate their time. The mass moderator removal made the super-mod issues even worse.

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      Got banned from the stims community after satirically commenting 'I'm 14 and what is this?'

      The moderator demanded that I submit identity documents. I pointed out that the account was twelve years old but they couldn't back down at this point. I think they were trying to do a good job and were at least active but it was another nail in the coffin. In theory, an unpaid mod could be more objective because there's no profit motive but the reality is that many are ideologically biased or dumb or controlling and none of them are trained. That any single individual wants to be in charge of the narrative is suspicious. Scale that ambition up to hundreds of thousands or millions of people it's a red flag. Reddit is completely cooked these days, I haven't returned since finding Lemmy.

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        Yeah it's like idiots killing idiots September

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        They’re competing to be the lead idiot.

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        • bananaisaberry@lemmy.zipB [email protected]

          To be fair, are there any social media platforms that don't have a kind of stupid name?

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          Its one of the two hard problems of computer science after all

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            #163

            Allowing volunteer mods was dangerous enough. Allowing those mods to have unlimited subreddits was a magnet for agenda-driven operatives. The changes don't really do enough to get rid of mods with an agenda.

            BTW, once a Reddit mod permabans you, there's no way to appeal their ban. The mods can simply ignore your request for a review. Also, after you are banned, Reddit doesn't automatically decrement the membership count. You must unjoin on your own. So its membership numbers are inflated for each subreddit.

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              I've gotten IP banned twice. Once for talking about my cat killing rabbits (violence!) and once for talking about racist attacks against my local mayor by right wing nutjobs (supporting racism).

              It's astoundingly stupid. I was never once ever even banned or blocked from a subreddit until like 2022. Then I started repeatedly getting bans from lots of subs for racism, sexism and violence. Mostly for throughful comments that were getting tons of upvotes then I'd get some personal comment from a mod about what a jerk I was and how if I think men/women are the same, and race isn't a huge pivotal thing, and violence is part of life... well then apparently I'm sexist, racist, and promoting violence. I also pointed out some obvious viral marketing going on in some subs... and banned. I also start getting harassed and targetted and followed by people on the site. It was so weird to have someone show up in other subs to insult/harass me or the constant PMs from weirdos. Never ever got those until like '22 as well.

              Reddit was great when it was small. People were reasonable and chill mostly and debate was allowed. I learned so much from so many great communities. Now it's just a corporate echo chamber that wants a inoffensive as possible Disney like image. It's run by dingbats with zero ability to make normal judgements and caters to nutbags and bad actors who actively abuse things.

              That said IRL things are so getting worse. My entire life I've mostly head the same opinions... and now all the sudden I'm 'evil' because I don't agree with exteremist/ignorance-first agendas being pushed so hard.

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              I got banned for a month when I wrote that I disapprove of conspiracy theories. Some keyword list must have triggered it.

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                Nope. Got banned for threatening someone who was cussing me for one of my aggressive opinions

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                Nice. I got banned from AmITheAsshole for telling a poster to break his friends kneecaps over $20.

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                • cupcakezealot@piefed.blahaj.zoneC [email protected]

                  putting limits on the number of subs a user can moderate is like putting limits on the number of articles a wikipedia editor can edit.

                  typically moderation is an opt in job and you want people who actually want to do it to keep things going smoothly. all this will do is make the pool even smaller which will lead to subs becoming more toxic.

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                  Allowing opt-in moderation attracts mods with an agenda. That's a big problem with Reddit.

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                    #167

                    Still waiting for the Reddit purge of Wincest, Rape, and Zoo subs. There's a whole little toxic corner they allow to continue. I used to think they were honey pots. Now I'm not so sure.

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                    • explodicle@sh.itjust.worksE [email protected]

                      Bro just DCA bitcoin. Done.

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                      Bro just DCA bitcoin. Done.

                      It's extremely difficult to double your investment with BTC if you start at this point. There are far better stock market investments out there now.

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                        Hey, they chose to offer free labor for a company that has proven time and time again to not give a crap about the mods or the users. I get why they are complaining but I at least hope that they aren’t surprised or expect that their complaints will do anything.

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                        Mods get to control the political climate of their subreddit. Those with a political agenda would pay for that privilege.

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                          Still waiting for the Reddit purge of Wincest, Rape, and Zoo subs. There's a whole little toxic corner they allow to continue. I used to think they were honey pots. Now I'm not so sure.

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                          What's wincest

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                            Reddit has been dead since February, when Spez met with The Goblin, and then permabanned thousands, maybe millions of highly active accounts, including me. I was permabanned for repeating a post I had made many times with no issues. After 12 years, and almost a million Karma, I was suddenly too dangerous to allow on the platform, along with thousands of others.

                            We high volume posters built Reddit, but we shifted from being assets to problems after Trump was elected again.

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                            "subreddits will stop displaying subscriber counts and instead show their “unique number of unique visitors over the last seven days, based on a rolling 28-day average,” Reddit’s rep said. Notably, old.reddit.com will not get these new stats but will still lose subscriber counts"

                            They are hiding,for stock purposes, their declining numbers from everyone they have banned. 12 year user I never said anything outlandish just dark humor that I always have. Stuff that would have been easily ok 10 years ago. Nope no more

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                              What's wincest

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                              Drop the w and you'll understand.

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                                What's wincest

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                                  I'm surprised that Reddit has any active users, personally. It's just so... Fake now.

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                                  And so many more right wingers. Even 10 years ago those people would have been downvoted to oblivion now they make top comments.

                                  Reddit for me was an escape from my red state and actually talk about policies I'd like to see along with just other general interest. And if I want to shit on someone for their take or just to blow off Steam. That was the place to do it. It hasn't been that for about 2 years now. I've been off reddit completely for the last 6 months.

                                  I won't even click a Google link to it in search results.

                                  I really would like lemmy to become more popular because it's user base is so small

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                                    Bro just DCA bitcoin. Done.

                                    It's extremely difficult to double your investment with BTC if you start at this point. There are far better stock market investments out there now.

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                                    You could always just help improve society for money, instead of trying to scrape out free money like some selfish bastard?

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                                      Yes, I expressed outrage at a disgusting state sanctioned murder in Iraq and suggested the invaders perpetrating these horror deserve to see the same kind of violence in their own cities.
                                      Permaban of the entire website forever. I could easily evade the ban but, this was also when the API trouble and the "reddit is fun" app stopped working.
                                      The writing was on the wall, duck that place and everyone in it. I won't be taken hostage anymore.

                                      I never looked back and I'm glad I did, I was wasting so much of my precious time in that ducking disgusting dump. I hope Lemmy doesn't Septemberify for a long time. I really hope steps are taken to prevent centralization and owner dominance of Lemmy before it becomes reddit with extra steps

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                                      Id go back just to try and get banned again. I've tried everything I can think of. Always get shadow banned right away.

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                                      • ebolapie@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                                        Drop the w and you'll understand.

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                                        What. Why does it have a w then?

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                                          I got my 15 year old account permanently banned for filing one report against a user who was stalking my profile to call me slurs. (This was “abusing the report button”, apparently.) Everyone in my household got their accounts banned alongside mine. It’s very strange how the site is being run now.

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