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Mods react as Reddit kicks some of them out again: “This will break the site”

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    At the risk of agreeing with Reddit:

    Under new rules rolling out over the coming months, a small number of users will be required to leave some of their moderator posts so that they aren’t moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.

    That sounds perfectly reasonable. Reddit has a massive powermod problem.

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    We all presume that being the mod of several large reddit communities doesn't include the possibility of sidehustle financial benefits.

    Yet, humans are innovators of corruption! And I can only assume that any multi-mega-subreddit moderator has worked out something to make what is obviously a full time job worth their time.

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      It's interesting to see the site treat it's unpaid workers more and more like low level employees. I guess capitalists just can't help themselves.

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      The mods under discussion are the ones that mod more than FIVE large communities. if those people haven't figured out a way to make that a paying gig, then they're doing it wrong.

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        The mods under discussion are the ones that mod more than FIVE large communities. if those people haven't figured out a way to make that a paying gig, then they're doing it wrong.

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        What kind of meat stick would do this? I still just literally cannot understand why someone would put themself in this position, no matter how entrenched into their parents basement they are, or how bad they smell.

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        • tabular@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

          Given Reddit's past unreasonableness, I wouldn't be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.

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          *ulterior

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            Reddit is basically state controlled.

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              The best way to leave reddit is to get permabanned.

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              Yes, I expressed outrage at a disgusting state sanctioned murder in Iraq and suggested the invaders perpetrating these horror deserve to see the same kind of violence in their own cities.
              Permaban of the entire website forever. I could easily evade the ban but, this was also when the API trouble and the "reddit is fun" app stopped working.
              The writing was on the wall, duck that place and everyone in it. I won't be taken hostage anymore.

              I never looked back and I'm glad I did, I was wasting so much of my precious time in that ducking disgusting dump. I hope Lemmy doesn't Septemberify for a long time. I really hope steps are taken to prevent centralization and owner dominance of Lemmy before it becomes reddit with extra steps

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                *ulterior

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                While ulterior is probably a better way to say that alternative motive also makes sense given the context.

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                  The mods under discussion are the ones that mod more than FIVE large communities. if those people haven't figured out a way to make that a paying gig, then they're doing it wrong.

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                  Speaking as a former top 1%er redditor... figuring out how to do it and being willing to do it are two completely different things.

                  Life would be so much easier if I lacked basic human ethics. 🙂

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                    What kind of meat stick would do this? I still just literally cannot understand why someone would put themself in this position, no matter how entrenched into their parents basement they are, or how bad they smell.

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                    I imagine they get paid by intelligence agencies and advertising to shut down inconvenient and critical topics, positive discussions of competitors or criticing of the product, via overbroad catch all rules and moderator discretion.

                    Things just as likely to happen on Lemmy until every user participates in crowd sources moderation, all moderation actions become transparent and moderation are only optional action lists executed client side

                    (no modlog is not transparent, it's quickly autodeleted and very hard to search, therefore difficult to audit broadly and even if you found violation, you will find only deaf ears to complain about it)

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                      The best way to leave reddit is to get permabanned.

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                      It's so easy

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                      • tabular@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                        Given Reddit's past unreasonableness, I wouldn't be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.

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                        The motive is these mods hold a decent amount of power on the platform that they wish to reduce. They don’t want a repeat of the API protests.

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                          What's the second logo?

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                          • jordanlund@lemmy.worldJ [email protected]

                            Speaking as a former top 1%er redditor... figuring out how to do it and being willing to do it are two completely different things.

                            Life would be so much easier if I lacked basic human ethics. 🙂

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                            "Man, I wish I didn't have a moral compass. I would have so much stuff!" - my brother after another coworker was fired for getting caught stealing.

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                            • tabular@lemmy.worldT [email protected]

                              Given Reddit's past unreasonableness, I wouldn't be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.

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                              Gotta boost user numbers.

                              Or obscure them considering not letting people see sub count only daily/weekly activities

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                                Yes, I expressed outrage at a disgusting state sanctioned murder in Iraq and suggested the invaders perpetrating these horror deserve to see the same kind of violence in their own cities.
                                Permaban of the entire website forever. I could easily evade the ban but, this was also when the API trouble and the "reddit is fun" app stopped working.
                                The writing was on the wall, duck that place and everyone in it. I won't be taken hostage anymore.

                                I never looked back and I'm glad I did, I was wasting so much of my precious time in that ducking disgusting dump. I hope Lemmy doesn't Septemberify for a long time. I really hope steps are taken to prevent centralization and owner dominance of Lemmy before it becomes reddit with extra steps

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                                Lenny doesn't really work like that. It's not just one site.

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                                • riquy@lemmy.zipR [email protected]

                                  What's the second logo?

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                                  The outer right one? This is lemmy. A link aggregator like reddit

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                                    We all presume that being the mod of several large reddit communities doesn't include the possibility of sidehustle financial benefits.

                                    Yet, humans are innovators of corruption! And I can only assume that any multi-mega-subreddit moderator has worked out something to make what is obviously a full time job worth their time.

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                                    I heard mods of big subreddits can get basically sponsored by big companies and go to events. Half the pc gaming subreddits have what are basically ad posts pinned by the mods.

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                                    • P [email protected]

                                      At the risk of agreeing with Reddit:

                                      Under new rules rolling out over the coming months, a small number of users will be required to leave some of their moderator posts so that they aren’t moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.

                                      That sounds perfectly reasonable. Reddit has a massive powermod problem.

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                                      The problem with powermod isn't that they exist, though. Moderation of a large sub is still done by volunteers that have had to hack solutions together because they don't get a lot of support from Reddit. It helps Reddit to have experienced mods overseeing several subs because they bring with them experience on how to handle high profile and large scale moderation efforts. They are a technical talent pool that Reddit relies upon a lot.

                                      The problem is that Reddit has shitty mod governance. It still uses rank by add date and offers no ability for users to kick a mod out except for TOS faults. Reddit doesn't want to fix mod governance issues because it creates a legitimate mod power structure and Reddit doesn't want to give that much power to users, including mods.

                                      That said, Reddit's shitty mod governance was copied directly to Lemmy.

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                                        The problem with powermod isn't that they exist, though. Moderation of a large sub is still done by volunteers that have had to hack solutions together because they don't get a lot of support from Reddit. It helps Reddit to have experienced mods overseeing several subs because they bring with them experience on how to handle high profile and large scale moderation efforts. They are a technical talent pool that Reddit relies upon a lot.

                                        The problem is that Reddit has shitty mod governance. It still uses rank by add date and offers no ability for users to kick a mod out except for TOS faults. Reddit doesn't want to fix mod governance issues because it creates a legitimate mod power structure and Reddit doesn't want to give that much power to users, including mods.

                                        That said, Reddit's shitty mod governance was copied directly to Lemmy.

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                                        Not really. The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience. This is not about enforcing subreddit rules its about subreddit mods pushing an agenda across their subs and pushing sponsored posts outsides reddits ad program.

                                        Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame

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                                        • riquy@lemmy.zipR [email protected]

                                          What's the second logo?

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                                          First picture I found on Google for each because I'm lazy but there they are with pictures attached.

                                          Piefed
                                          Piefed

                                          Lemmy
                                          Lemmy

                                          Mastodon
                                          Mastodon

                                          Pixelfed
                                          Pixelfed

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