Mods react as Reddit kicks some of them out again: “This will break the site”
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While ulterior is probably a better way to say that alternative motive also makes sense given the context.
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The mods under discussion are the ones that mod more than FIVE large communities. if those people haven't figured out a way to make that a paying gig, then they're doing it wrong.
Speaking as a former top 1%er redditor... figuring out how to do it and being willing to do it are two completely different things.
Life would be so much easier if I lacked basic human ethics.
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What kind of meat stick would do this? I still just literally cannot understand why someone would put themself in this position, no matter how entrenched into their parents basement they are, or how bad they smell.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I imagine they get paid by intelligence agencies and advertising to shut down inconvenient and critical topics, positive discussions of competitors or criticing of the product, via overbroad catch all rules and moderator discretion.
Things just as likely to happen on Lemmy until every user participates in crowd sources moderation, all moderation actions become transparent and moderation are only optional action lists executed client side
(no modlog is not transparent, it's quickly autodeleted and very hard to search, therefore difficult to audit broadly and even if you found violation, you will find only deaf ears to complain about it)
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The best way to leave reddit is to get permabanned.
It's so easy
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Given Reddit's past unreasonableness, I wouldn't be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.
The motive is these mods hold a decent amount of power on the platform that they wish to reduce. They don’t want a repeat of the API protests.
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What's the second logo?
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Speaking as a former top 1%er redditor... figuring out how to do it and being willing to do it are two completely different things.
Life would be so much easier if I lacked basic human ethics.
"Man, I wish I didn't have a moral compass. I would have so much stuff!" - my brother after another coworker was fired for getting caught stealing.
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Given Reddit's past unreasonableness, I wouldn't be surprised if this otherwise reasonable explanation has an alternative motive.
Gotta boost user numbers.
Or obscure them considering not letting people see sub count only daily/weekly activities
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Yes, I expressed outrage at a disgusting state sanctioned murder in Iraq and suggested the invaders perpetrating these horror deserve to see the same kind of violence in their own cities.
Permaban of the entire website forever. I could easily evade the ban but, this was also when the API trouble and the "reddit is fun" app stopped working.
The writing was on the wall, duck that place and everyone in it. I won't be taken hostage anymore.I never looked back and I'm glad I did, I was wasting so much of my precious time in that ducking disgusting dump. I hope Lemmy doesn't Septemberify for a long time. I really hope steps are taken to prevent centralization and owner dominance of Lemmy before it becomes reddit with extra steps
Lenny doesn't really work like that. It's not just one site.
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What's the second logo?
The outer right one? This is lemmy. A link aggregator like reddit
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We all presume that being the mod of several large reddit communities doesn't include the possibility of sidehustle financial benefits.
Yet, humans are innovators of corruption! And I can only assume that any multi-mega-subreddit moderator has worked out something to make what is obviously a full time job worth their time.
I heard mods of big subreddits can get basically sponsored by big companies and go to events. Half the pc gaming subreddits have what are basically ad posts pinned by the mods.
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At the risk of agreeing with Reddit:
Under new rules rolling out over the coming months, a small number of users will be required to leave some of their moderator posts so that they aren’t moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.
That sounds perfectly reasonable. Reddit has a massive powermod problem.
The problem with powermod isn't that they exist, though. Moderation of a large sub is still done by volunteers that have had to hack solutions together because they don't get a lot of support from Reddit. It helps Reddit to have experienced mods overseeing several subs because they bring with them experience on how to handle high profile and large scale moderation efforts. They are a technical talent pool that Reddit relies upon a lot.
The problem is that Reddit has shitty mod governance. It still uses rank by add date and offers no ability for users to kick a mod out except for TOS faults. Reddit doesn't want to fix mod governance issues because it creates a legitimate mod power structure and Reddit doesn't want to give that much power to users, including mods.
That said, Reddit's shitty mod governance was copied directly to Lemmy.
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The problem with powermod isn't that they exist, though. Moderation of a large sub is still done by volunteers that have had to hack solutions together because they don't get a lot of support from Reddit. It helps Reddit to have experienced mods overseeing several subs because they bring with them experience on how to handle high profile and large scale moderation efforts. They are a technical talent pool that Reddit relies upon a lot.
The problem is that Reddit has shitty mod governance. It still uses rank by add date and offers no ability for users to kick a mod out except for TOS faults. Reddit doesn't want to fix mod governance issues because it creates a legitimate mod power structure and Reddit doesn't want to give that much power to users, including mods.
That said, Reddit's shitty mod governance was copied directly to Lemmy.
Not really. The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience. This is not about enforcing subreddit rules its about subreddit mods pushing an agenda across their subs and pushing sponsored posts outsides reddits ad program.
Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame
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What's the second logo?
First picture I found on Google for each because I'm lazy but there they are with pictures attached.
Piefed
Lemmy
Mastodon
Pixelfed
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Literally another attempt to appear legit by putting in place an easily circumventable rule.
So first they don't even check if mods are using alt accounts to moderate other subs but even if they do force it, it's so easy to click a button on your VPN and you are free to be anyone you want according to "Reddit Corps Super Advanced Security System."
Reddit can ban users across vpn with their automated system. Its even easier if they have tasked someone to look into doing it. I doubt people are taking enough steps to prevent the browser fingerprinting that gives them a unique signature.
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Seems okay, Reddit should eliminate the powermods
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At the risk of agreeing with Reddit:
Under new rules rolling out over the coming months, a small number of users will be required to leave some of their moderator posts so that they aren’t moderating more than five subreddits with 100,000 monthly visitors.
That sounds perfectly reasonable. Reddit has a massive powermod problem.
True, but Reddit let this problem fester for a long time.
What's interesting to me here regarding this, is Reddits current preparation timescale. This isn't going to be enforced until March 31st, 2026. This tells me that Reddit would have been unprepared for a complete mass-walkout of community moderators during the 2023 Reddit API strikes. A large chunk of Reddit during that period was genuinely inaccessible. But after a few token gestures and a few examples made of some especially rebellious mod-teams, most of the striking moderators returned.
A huge opportunity was missed by people running major communities to functionally degrade Reddit in at least the medium-term as a website. You can't just hastily promote random people to replace moderators Reddit is either forced to remove or who leave voluntarily. The average person is likely too lazy, too arbitrary and too corrupt to effectively oversee communities of notable sizes.
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Not really. The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience. This is not about enforcing subreddit rules its about subreddit mods pushing an agenda across their subs and pushing sponsored posts outsides reddits ad program.
Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame
The powermods arent bringing anything unique moderation except a network that allows them to control content for a specific audience.
It depends who. There are some that build tools and procedures for handling large forums. They may also share best practices across different subs.
As for controlling content, it isn't like a corporation or political group can't create 20 accounts and take over subs. That's already happened on Reddit.
Its overall a good thing but the powermods will be replaced with reddit admins doing the ame
Or sock puppet accounts. Banning the current set of mods without a plan on who replaces them doesn't fix the problem.
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Gotta boost user numbers.
Or obscure them considering not letting people see sub count only daily/weekly activities
That's it. It's the illusion of fairness and it takes away reddit jannies' ability to show off their powermod status, and that's the only incentive they have not to use sockpuppets for every sub they mod.
