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"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership

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  • quarterswede@lemmy.worldQ [email protected]

    What a moronic move. I almost never post comments but I watch plenty of content.

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    Commenting on YouTube videos is just shouting into the void

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      YouTube is hostile to viewers unless you pay them £20 a month.

      It’s like 15 ads per 2 mins screen time with 2 being unstoppable and 1 being 3 minutes long.
      Slightly exaggerated but not far from the truth. It’s horrible. And they slow everything down too, the main video fake buffers whereas when you’re in premium it doesn’t.

      I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.

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      Or you use adblock

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      • engywuck@lemmy.zipE [email protected]

        I literally never watch a YouTube videos, as they are just a waste of time. For a given video on a given topic, the same amount of information can be obtained by a decently written blog or article that can be read in a 1/10 of the time it takes to watch q video filled by nonsense blabbering and sponsored segments for revenues. In some extreme cases, if the topic seems really, really , REALLay interesting, I may ask an LLM to summarize the video for me. People should stop linking YouTube videos altogether.

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        Watch veritasium videos, they are well researched and informative. I have sponsor block and ad block so I don't get annoyed

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          I literally never watch a YouTube videos, as they are just a waste of time. For a given video on a given topic, the same amount of information can be obtained by a decently written blog or article that can be read in a 1/10 of the time it takes to watch q video filled by nonsense blabbering and sponsored segments for revenues. In some extreme cases, if the topic seems really, really , REALLay interesting, I may ask an LLM to summarize the video for me. People should stop linking YouTube videos altogether.

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          I disagree with you so you should stop posting your opinions altogether.

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            I just don't get suggested his content anymore. Then again I just found out every channel I've ever subscribed to is under a seperate category and usually not under the main YouTube page..

            Basically I'm blocking every channel I've subscribed to without ever realising..

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            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEJpZjg8GuA&t=18

            Just use the subscriptions tab (yes, this video does talk about it).

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              Or you use adblock

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              I would but I primarily watch on my tv

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                What does that have to do with being able to watch videos on a free ad supported platform?

                Also this isn't just something happening to LTT, this is happening across the board with many many channels speaking up about drop in views. YouTube did something and it's hurting content creators both large and small

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                It may not be what that person meant, but, I kinda agree it might be a factor. The free experience has done nothing but become more and more terrible on youtube. The ads have become truly insufferable, and the UI is actively working against you. TV app in particular is borderline unwatchable.

                I have always watched YouTube for free, and I am at a point where I am considering ditching the thing completely, because I am not paying another (quite expensive) subscription for it. I haven't yet, but it has certainly slowed down how much I watch.

                It's so bad it's even questioning some uses I had for the platform. I used to watch a video while I eat, stuff like that. What's the point if I barely make it out of the initial ad tunnel just before dessert? And when I pause for just a minute to get something, I am immediately hit with another ad break as I resume?

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                  There are quite a few that allow uploads without charges or subs. But not if you start now, right now because costs have risen so much you cannot possibly cover them if someone comes in and uploads 20 or so high quality high bandwidth sucking videos because well, there isnt really the audience and the money is basically lost... and as said that is where we are. Doesn't help they only really use h.264 and don't get ad revenue. Creators have zero interest in making a video if they don't get something back, either in plenty of views or some income which currently, to be brutal, they have zero chance of achieving on peertube compared to youtube

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                    A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                    EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                    EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                    Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                    Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                    Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                    Youtube has seen exactly the same slowdown as everything on the internet. Plenty of people have less time to spend watching videos and being more worried about money (lack of it) whilst also spending more time on other things.i cannot blame one single thing but I have noticed that the complaints about AI being literally everywhere are at the foreground when people moan to me!

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                    • M [email protected]

                      A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                      EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                      EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                      Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                      Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                      Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                      Maybe try not threatening to sue former employees when they come forward about sexual harassment

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                      • F [email protected]

                        I wonder what they’re going to prioritize now

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                        I‘ve noticed the algorithm drizzles a good portion of smaller creators on my front page in recent months and that part is growing. I am talking about videos with just a few thousand or few hundred views that make up roughly 10-15 percent of my recommendations or so.

                        I think Youtube is diversifying exposure so you don‘t see the same faces you‘ve seen the past 15 years as often and new channels get a chance to grow. I am guessing Youtube doesn‘t want to be too dependent on the same huge channels anymore either.

                        Of course that means huge creators are calling to the pitch forks and torches because they lose revenue but why should I care? Most of them are rich anyway and don‘t necessarily produce better videos than someone with their phone in their garage workshop or a bunch of college students in their dorms. If anything it feels more like the old Youtube again.

                        There is a lot wrong with Youtube but I couldn‘t care less about huge channels being forced to slim down or try harder.

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                          Folks here are missing the point blaming LTT for the drop. This has been a sudden drop, too sudden to be fatigue or audience tastes changing.

                          Also I can see the same on my own channel. About 2 weeks ago views suddenly dropped to a third of the usual views. And even high performing videos have had trouble getting views since. Even videos with a high impression percentage are getting lower than average views.

                          The same wsd also reported by Second Wind (old Zero Punctuation) and their experience is the same: way too sudden drop to be anything else except YouTube adjusting their algorithm.

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                          The same wsd also reported by Second Wind (old Zero Punctuation) and their experience is the same: way too sudden drop to be anything else except YouTube adjusting their algorithm.

                          In their video, Yahtzee said it could be related to Restricted Mode on youtube suddenly turns on by itself. Or at least that's their hypothesis, since they checked that if that mode is on, a lot of their videos vanished from their channel.

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                            A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                            EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                            EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                            Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                            Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                            Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                            Oh and as if by magic, after I said something I received an email from a client bemoaning about the drop in youtube viewers. She reckons it is not only a drop in viewers but in viewing time as well. Mentioned bloody AI as well just because everybody is

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                              A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                              EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                              EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                              Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                              Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                              Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                              Stopped watching this douche nozzle when they were having a big meet and greet to celebrate their new studio. And he looks at the camera guy and tells them inf front of all the fans they're having a good time with... Overtime tonight guys, we gotta edit this footage and have it online today. Would have quit my job on the spot and as a viewer I quit my part in the bullshit right then and there.

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                              • I [email protected]

                                Watch veritasium videos, they are well researched and informative. I have sponsor block and ad block so I don't get annoyed

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                                I prefer to read books. Thanks. By the way, the fact that you need adblocker an sponsorblock to enjoy a few videos speaks volumes.

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                                • engywuck@lemmy.zipE [email protected]

                                  I literally never watch a YouTube videos, as they are just a waste of time. For a given video on a given topic, the same amount of information can be obtained by a decently written blog or article that can be read in a 1/10 of the time it takes to watch q video filled by nonsense blabbering and sponsored segments for revenues. In some extreme cases, if the topic seems really, really , REALLay interesting, I may ask an LLM to summarize the video for me. People should stop linking YouTube videos altogether.

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                                  #126

                                  I feel the same way. I can read really fast and get to the juice of an article faster than it takes for the YouTube video to go through the introduction, sponsors, etc.

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                                    I disagree with you so you should stop posting your opinions altogether.

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                                    There's a "block" button somewhere in Lemmy's interface, under my profile. Just use it and go back swallowing crappy YT videos.

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                                      YouTube is hostile to viewers unless you pay them £20 a month.

                                      It’s like 15 ads per 2 mins screen time with 2 being unstoppable and 1 being 3 minutes long.
                                      Slightly exaggerated but not far from the truth. It’s horrible. And they slow everything down too, the main video fake buffers whereas when you’re in premium it doesn’t.

                                      I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.

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                                      And then there is the occasional 30 minute to an hour infomercial that comes on obvious stuff people watch to go to sleep! I wanted someone softly talking about outer spacey things, not you're shitty product I give so much little of a fuck about that I didn't even look at what was being advertised. I hate you so much I will not even remember your name to give you free advertising by birding about you online!

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                                        I haven‘t watched this video either but Rossmann is an extremely pedantic guy who can be extremely biased when talking about things that rub him the wrong way personally. His take about sponsorblock was almost as baffling as Piratesoftware‘s take about SKG and that says something.

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                                          The same wsd also reported by Second Wind (old Zero Punctuation) and their experience is the same: way too sudden drop to be anything else except YouTube adjusting their algorithm.

                                          In their video, Yahtzee said it could be related to Restricted Mode on youtube suddenly turns on by itself. Or at least that's their hypothesis, since they checked that if that mode is on, a lot of their videos vanished from their channel.

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                                          They're wrong, my channel has under 4% viewers in the up to 18 year segment, this effect is way bigger than if I lost then completely. Also my channel features no swearing or inappropriate content so, it should not affect it at all if this was the case.

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