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"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership

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  • D [email protected]

    The most recent findings from Brodie Robertson were that the vieas to likes ratio skyrocketed, something that LTT also has confirmed on their side in the newer stream, and what seems like similar behavior in DarkviperAU's channel. It seems that the likes are the same or higher, and the actual pay for the ads are basically the same, but the views are reduced. It's as if views were the same but are being displayed lower than usual.

    Not that most people here would care apparently, because the majority just wants to shit on Linus above actually having any worthwhile look into any of this stuff

    Edit: Some direct links to said videos for whoever is interested

    • https://youtu.be/1hVwUjcsl6s
    • https://youtu.be/qPen-cHdYmk?t=1074 (timestamp 17:54)
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    Ya, I can't believe how negative people are towards LTT. That channel is the reason I de-googled when I did, dove into home assistant, even checked out Linux (and now use arch full time by the way). I'm not super interested in defending a company let alone a YouTube personality, but like Jesus Christ some most of the people commenting negatively about LTT need to chill the fuck out. They're not that bad, they clearly pay people well, they're open and honest about most shit. If your bullshit detector is going off with LTT I think it needs tuning because you're probably hitting a lot of false negatives IMHO.

    I have no doubt being as wealthy as Linus is is changing him, I have no doubt that's effecting the company, but there's nothing I'm seeing as a regular watcher that is glaringly bad or evil and I recognize in myself I'm actively starting to default to "fuck off" for millionaires so like ┐⁠(⁠ ̄⁠ヘ⁠ ̄⁠)⁠┌. I don't think the channel is getting grandfathered in on that clause either, they just seem to like people doing their best.

    I don't like Linus's time-theft stance as of late, the most recent multi monitors vid had a comedic discussion between him and an employee and I recognize his job in that role is to be the straight man and say time charging fraud is theft or whatever but it feels out of touch. That's a negative thing I can point to I guess. Am I gonna consider Linus or LTTY evil or shit because he's vocal about theft being theft even though I think corpos can fuck off because they're getting more productivity then we're getting paid - no, no I'm not.

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      Sadly not. Apple TV

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      ah. i have the same issue on my iphone. I just don't watch youtube on my iphone because fuck ads.

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      • F [email protected]

        YouTube is hostile to viewers unless you pay them £20 a month.

        It’s like 15 ads per 2 mins screen time with 2 being unstoppable and 1 being 3 minutes long.
        Slightly exaggerated but not far from the truth. It’s horrible. And they slow everything down too, the main video fake buffers whereas when you’re in premium it doesn’t.

        I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.

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        They are using automatic dubbing by default here in France! I was horrified the first time.

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          ah. i have the same issue on my iphone. I just don't watch youtube on my iphone because fuck ads.

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          Get the ublock origin lite and on for safari, had worked an absolute treat for stopping YouTube ads on my iPad.

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          • F [email protected]

            I’m quite happy with my Apple TV and Plex

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            I have the same setup as you and just pay the Premium.
            One thing I would recommend is getting isponsorblocktv on your server. It skips the ad reads within the YouTube content and works on Apple TV.
            Every year or so I look for a tracker doing YouTube or a sonarr YouTube fork. The instinct to hoard data is strong. But none have worked consistently for me.

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              I was never a fan of LTT, or his videos, but I did watch one video, his Pop os one and that immediately confirmed why.

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              Also that video where he tried Mac OSX for the first time. All his complains in that video were that it didn’t work like Windows.

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                You also need to buy books, or borrow them from someone else who did. YouTube videos are free usually.

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                There's nothing free in this world. You're paying with your attention and at least metadata, independently on how many blockers you may use.

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                  for Android (TV): smart tube next

                  For a browser (Firefox): ublock origin.

                  Have not seen an ad in years, and i have not paid a cent to youtube.

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                  For anyone following the smart tube next tutorial on github you don't need to do anything after installing the "kutt.it/......." Download. You do not need to transfer an APK from your phone or computer. Literally just download the downloader, and you're the beta or stable package address and install"also make sure you have developer options enabled beforehand.

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                  • P [email protected]

                    I have the same setup as you and just pay the Premium.
                    One thing I would recommend is getting isponsorblocktv on your server. It skips the ad reads within the YouTube content and works on Apple TV.
                    Every year or so I look for a tracker doing YouTube or a sonarr YouTube fork. The instinct to hoard data is strong. But none have worked consistently for me.

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                    #165

                    Ah good shout, I remember looking in to that a while back but never went ahead.

                    The hard thing about needing premium is I could likely easily not have it, but the scumbags limit downloads (cache) on YouTube kids to premium members, which comes in handy in a pickle for sure for my daughter.

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                    • cecilkorik@lemmy.caC [email protected]

                      I use Odysee and Peertube where possible but yeah they're somewhat awkward, and the biggest thing I typically miss is the comments. As awful as most Youtube comments are, the critical mass is there, if you're looking for a quick link to something in the video, the summary that the author should've included but didn't, the correction where the author was wrong, or something else of actual value, chances are whatever it is you're trying to find somewhere on the top heap of Youtube comments. As with most social media, the value is not in the service itself, it's in the community. Steering that community towards somewhere where it will actually be appreciated is a herculean task when someone has to be the pioneers and live in that desert and put in the work to prepare it for the ones who will come after them.

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                      I glanced at odysee and noped out the second the front page I was looking at was full of trump racist propaganda

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                      • orgundonor@lemmy.worldO [email protected]

                        Get the ublock origin lite and on for safari, had worked an absolute treat for stopping YouTube ads on my iPad.

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                        aha thanks. I just installed it, and no ads!

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                          For anyone following the smart tube next tutorial on github you don't need to do anything after installing the "kutt.it/......." Download. You do not need to transfer an APK from your phone or computer. Literally just download the downloader, and you're the beta or stable package address and install"also make sure you have developer options enabled beforehand.

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                          Also, probably a great time to turn updates to your OS off, as Google is taking away the ability to sideload (well, kinda). It's a whole story. Highly doubt that SmartTube Next is gonna get a licence to allow signing of their app.

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                            They are using automatic dubbing by default here in France! I was horrified the first time.

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                            I hate them for auto translating the video titles and descriptions with no way to turn them off, I even installed an extension to restore the original titles but YT broke it again intentionally or unintentionally with their unending tweaks.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              YouTube is hostile to viewers unless you pay them £20 a month.

                              It’s like 15 ads per 2 mins screen time with 2 being unstoppable and 1 being 3 minutes long.
                              Slightly exaggerated but not far from the truth. It’s horrible. And they slow everything down too, the main video fake buffers whereas when you’re in premium it doesn’t.

                              I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.

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                              Yep agreed.
                              It's downright disgusting to browse youtube without premium or an adblocker.

                              Sadly I need premium simply because I am watching on an Android TV and I am not trusting third party clients with my google account.
                              Too much stuff is associated with it (monetary)

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                                They are using automatic dubbing by default here in France! I was horrified the first time.

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                                After some time it "learns" you don't want it.

                                But what grinds my gears instead are auto-translated video titles.
                                Because I am watching maybe 70-80% english content I decided the lesser evil is to just set the language to english instead.
                                Annoying as fuck but managable.

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                                • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

                                  How do I turn that feature on?

                                  I keep turning off captions off, and every few days they are automatically turned back on.

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                                  #172

                                  "That's the neat part: Fuck you >:("
                                  - Youtube

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                                  • engywuck@lemmy.zipE [email protected]

                                    There's nothing free in this world. You're paying with your attention and at least metadata, independently on how many blockers you may use.

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                                    Yes exactly. They provide a service, you pay for it by watching ads and facilitating personalised advertising.

                                    In comparison, some of the books I’ve bought have cost more per book than a month of YouTube premium, so the value isn’t THAT bad on YouTube.

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                                      Stopped watching this douche nozzle when they were having a big meet and greet to celebrate their new studio. And he looks at the camera guy and tells them inf front of all the fans they're having a good time with... Overtime tonight guys, we gotta edit this footage and have it online today. Would have quit my job on the spot and as a viewer I quit my part in the bullshit right then and there.

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                                      May care to link to what you mean?
                                      Can't remember what you are talking about.

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                                        They're wrong, my channel has under 4% viewers in the up to 18 year segment, this effect is way bigger than if I lost then completely. Also my channel features no swearing or inappropriate content so, it should not affect it at all if this was the case.

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                                        It's not about what your viewers are, it's about what youtube now automatically hides by default. They show it in the video.

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                                        • C [email protected]

                                          I‘ve noticed the algorithm drizzles a good portion of smaller creators on my front page in recent months and that part is growing. I am talking about videos with just a few thousand or few hundred views that make up roughly 10-15 percent of my recommendations or so.

                                          I think Youtube is diversifying exposure so you don‘t see the same faces you‘ve seen the past 15 years as often and new channels get a chance to grow. I am guessing Youtube doesn‘t want to be too dependent on the same huge channels anymore either.

                                          Of course that means huge creators are calling to the pitch forks and torches because they lose revenue but why should I care? Most of them are rich anyway and don‘t necessarily produce better videos than someone with their phone in their garage workshop or a bunch of college students in their dorms. If anything it feels more like the old Youtube again.

                                          There is a lot wrong with Youtube but I couldn‘t care less about huge channels being forced to slim down or try harder.

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                                          Noticed those as well.
                                          Usually the side bar recommends the usual bunch or related content but then there is this totally random video of some small channel with 10 maybe <1000 views doing a let's play or some random content which is completely unrelated to the content I watching at the moment.

                                          Most of them are rich anyway and don‘t necessarily produce better videos than someone with their phone in their garage workshop or a bunch of college students in their dorms. If anything it feels more like the old Youtube again.

                                          In the case of LTT: Not everyone can absorb the cash flow for an ULTIMATE PETABYTE MULTI-NODE STORAGE SERVER BUILD.
                                          I honestly enjoy those as uneducated as some videos are, those infrastructure videos are really enjoyable for the amount of jank.

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