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"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership

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  • I [email protected]

    They are using automatic dubbing by default here in France! I was horrified the first time.

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    #169

    I hate them for auto translating the video titles and descriptions with no way to turn them off, I even installed an extension to restore the original titles but YT broke it again intentionally or unintentionally with their unending tweaks.

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    • F [email protected]

      YouTube is hostile to viewers unless you pay them £20 a month.

      It’s like 15 ads per 2 mins screen time with 2 being unstoppable and 1 being 3 minutes long.
      Slightly exaggerated but not far from the truth. It’s horrible. And they slow everything down too, the main video fake buffers whereas when you’re in premium it doesn’t.

      I didn’t mind paying a fiver but had to do it via the moon to get it cheap but now they have stopped that.

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      Yep agreed.
      It's downright disgusting to browse youtube without premium or an adblocker.

      Sadly I need premium simply because I am watching on an Android TV and I am not trusting third party clients with my google account.
      Too much stuff is associated with it (monetary)

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      • I [email protected]

        They are using automatic dubbing by default here in France! I was horrified the first time.

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        After some time it "learns" you don't want it.

        But what grinds my gears instead are auto-translated video titles.
        Because I am watching maybe 70-80% english content I decided the lesser evil is to just set the language to english instead.
        Annoying as fuck but managable.

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        • xatolos@reddthat.comX [email protected]

          How do I turn that feature on?

          I keep turning off captions off, and every few days they are automatically turned back on.

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          #172

          "That's the neat part: Fuck you >:("
          - Youtube

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          • engywuck@lemmy.zipE [email protected]

            There's nothing free in this world. You're paying with your attention and at least metadata, independently on how many blockers you may use.

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            Yes exactly. They provide a service, you pay for it by watching ads and facilitating personalised advertising.

            In comparison, some of the books I’ve bought have cost more per book than a month of YouTube premium, so the value isn’t THAT bad on YouTube.

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            • X [email protected]

              Stopped watching this douche nozzle when they were having a big meet and greet to celebrate their new studio. And he looks at the camera guy and tells them inf front of all the fans they're having a good time with... Overtime tonight guys, we gotta edit this footage and have it online today. Would have quit my job on the spot and as a viewer I quit my part in the bullshit right then and there.

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              May care to link to what you mean?
              Can't remember what you are talking about.

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              • T [email protected]

                They're wrong, my channel has under 4% viewers in the up to 18 year segment, this effect is way bigger than if I lost then completely. Also my channel features no swearing or inappropriate content so, it should not affect it at all if this was the case.

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                It's not about what your viewers are, it's about what youtube now automatically hides by default. They show it in the video.

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                • C [email protected]

                  I‘ve noticed the algorithm drizzles a good portion of smaller creators on my front page in recent months and that part is growing. I am talking about videos with just a few thousand or few hundred views that make up roughly 10-15 percent of my recommendations or so.

                  I think Youtube is diversifying exposure so you don‘t see the same faces you‘ve seen the past 15 years as often and new channels get a chance to grow. I am guessing Youtube doesn‘t want to be too dependent on the same huge channels anymore either.

                  Of course that means huge creators are calling to the pitch forks and torches because they lose revenue but why should I care? Most of them are rich anyway and don‘t necessarily produce better videos than someone with their phone in their garage workshop or a bunch of college students in their dorms. If anything it feels more like the old Youtube again.

                  There is a lot wrong with Youtube but I couldn‘t care less about huge channels being forced to slim down or try harder.

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                  #176

                  Noticed those as well.
                  Usually the side bar recommends the usual bunch or related content but then there is this totally random video of some small channel with 10 maybe <1000 views doing a let's play or some random content which is completely unrelated to the content I watching at the moment.

                  Most of them are rich anyway and don‘t necessarily produce better videos than someone with their phone in their garage workshop or a bunch of college students in their dorms. If anything it feels more like the old Youtube again.

                  In the case of LTT: Not everyone can absorb the cash flow for an ULTIMATE PETABYTE MULTI-NODE STORAGE SERVER BUILD.
                  I honestly enjoy those as uneducated as some videos are, those infrastructure videos are really enjoyable for the amount of jank.

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                  • V [email protected]

                    It's not about what your viewers are, it's about what youtube now automatically hides by default. They show it in the video.

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                    Yes, but even if they hid everything I have from teens and suspended teens, the drop would be way less. And that's why I think they are wrong about the reason for the drop.

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                    • H [email protected]

                      Doesn't help he has actually gotten dumber over the years.

                      He very clearly has fallen out of touch and basically is just a personality at this point.

                      So your not even watching a tech enthusiast millionaire dick around with things.

                      Your just watching a rich white dude dick around with tech and his company.

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                      #178

                      Would it be any better if he's black?
                      Why racially profile if it doesnt matter?

                      Edit: I like how I am getting downvoted for asking why the mentioned skin color is of any importance.
                      If a dude or dudette is a rich asshole it doesnt matter if they are yellow, white, black or green. Asshole stays asshole.

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                      • M [email protected]

                        A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                        EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                        EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                        Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                        Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                        Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                        #179

                        Eh. I lost any interest I had with Linus after the whole Gamers' Nexus thing, and I'm definitely staying away after hearing what Louis Rossman had to say about the guy.

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                        • F [email protected]

                          They've spent the last several years playing into "The Algorithm", to the point where most videos felt unnatural. Tight posting schedules affecting quality, topic choices, sudden endings, etc.

                          Not that I care, but I'm curious to see if they will switch to making content they actually care about, or double down and start doing proper brainrot.

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                          Sadly he mentioned (as far as I remember) on the live show that they might return to a higher frequency schedule once the workflow settled more in.

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                          • I [email protected]

                            Watch veritasium videos, they are well researched and informative. I have sponsor block and ad block so I don't get annoyed

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                            Veritasium is not super high on my trustworthiness list after the self-driving car ad incident

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                            • S [email protected]

                              Also that video where he tried Mac OSX for the first time. All his complains in that video were that it didn’t work like Windows.

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                              There is a difference between those willing to change something and those trying something out.

                              I use Apple devices at work and the sometimes ass-backwards way of hotkeys or UI decisions is really aggravating annoyance in regards to logically understanding the task needed to do something comparison to another OS like Windows.

                              E.g. deleting the app data of an app on iOS.
                              Why can't I just reset a damn app? Why do I need to uninstall and download it again from the store??

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                              • L [email protected]

                                Why is Yahtzee complaining about the same issue? He does games, not tech: https://youtu.be/cpVnx4_yqTo

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                                Tbf games content is also saturated af.

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                                  Very true. The last decade and a half have just been switching between round and square corners with mild spec bumps. VR was supposed to be it I think, but it just isn't useful enough.

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                                  VR still is it. If you have €€€€

                                  Take the bigscreen beyond 2.
                                  A vr-headset starting at 1300 (incl. taxes/import).
                                  Uhhh yeah.
                                  Not happening for what little VR could offer me in my current situation (and I don't watch porn).

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                                  • M [email protected]

                                    A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                    EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                    EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                    Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                    Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                    Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                    The more interesting part for me, that they mentioned on the WAN show, is that while viewers dropped significantly, the revenue basically hasn't changed. They're more or less making the same amount of money from half the amount of reported viewers.

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                                    • M [email protected]

                                      A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                      EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                      EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                      Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                      Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                      Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                      My guess they started accounting for bot visits. Perhaps a lot of videos before were visited by bots. Not just to bump views but could be for training AI.

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                                        He will look for answers literally anywhere, except for within.

                                        The tech scene is just not as interesting anymore, and the stuff he specifically covers is even less interesting. But the bigger issue is that everything LMG do is just corporate jank. It was fun when it was home garage jank, with 2 employees, but now it's just miserable and frustrating. And thats not even taking any of the interpersonal issues, or legal drama from recent history

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                                        He will look for answers literally anywhere, except for within.

                                        The tech scene is just not as interesting anymore

                                        He has literally publicly talked about this many times, he is very much aware of this fact and has stated that he's always looking for things that he can try and make interesting.

                                        and the stuff he specifically covers is even less interesting. But the bigger issue is that everything LMG do is just corporate jank. It was fun when it was home garage jank, with 2 employees, but now it's just miserable and frustrating

                                        On this part, I honestly don't quite get it. It's definitely a bit more corporate now, they are a 100 person company, but when it comes to the videos, I don't really see what else you'd want them to do? Sure they have some sponsored videos every now and then that are just showcases of a specific product, but even then I typically find them relatively interesting. And they still have a lot of videos where they're trying to build novel stuff and thinkering. Yeah, sure, it's typically on a higher level than what the average Joe would be capable of doing in their backyard, but I still feel like there's a place for it. Take one of the more recent videos, the one with the double-decker table. It's extremely cool to me, they took a regular table and a sit-to-stand desk, put one on top of the other, and made effectively two desks in one, one for gaming and one for a hobby. It's not something I'd build for myself, but it's a really fun concept.

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                                        • wabafee@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                                          My guess they started accounting for bot visits. Perhaps a lot of videos before were visited by bots. Not just to bump views but could be for training AI.

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                                          Or they could be subtracting viewers with ad blockers? It would make sense that more techie channels would be hit the hardest.

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