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"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership

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    I‘ve noticed the algorithm drizzles a good portion of smaller creators on my front page in recent months and that part is growing. I am talking about videos with just a few thousand or few hundred views that make up roughly 10-15 percent of my recommendations or so.

    I think Youtube is diversifying exposure so you don‘t see the same faces you‘ve seen the past 15 years as often and new channels get a chance to grow. I am guessing Youtube doesn‘t want to be too dependent on the same huge channels anymore either.

    Of course that means huge creators are calling to the pitch forks and torches because they lose revenue but why should I care? Most of them are rich anyway and don‘t necessarily produce better videos than someone with their phone in their garage workshop or a bunch of college students in their dorms. If anything it feels more like the old Youtube again.

    There is a lot wrong with Youtube but I couldn‘t care less about huge channels being forced to slim down or try harder.

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    I've been getting recommendations for videos with 2 to 10 views. Noticed it about three months ago.

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      A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

      EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
      EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

      Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

      Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

      Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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      I completely stopped watching him after the GPU fiasco. I always thought he might be super slimy, but I think I can reasonably say that he is.

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      • N [email protected]

        Really? I have a bridge to sell you. Talk about a tool...

        And you are talking to me like I watch videos all the time. I have better things to do, like making websites to lure people in like you.

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        Okay buddy.

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          I dunno I’ve still yet to see ads. Between Smart Tube Next on my TV, Firefox with uBlock origin on my computer, and AdGuard + Vinegar on my phone, nothing gets through, even with their latest efforts.

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          So you’re also contributing to the declining viewership that these channels are complaining about. They make no money off of your watch time so to them it is the same as no view at all.

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            So many possible reason.

            Linus has a history of scummy behavior which turns people off.

            Everything gets boring eventually. Especially things that are supposed to be funny.

            Google ads are extra obnoxious making the entire platform more annoying to use and most of us will never pay for youtube. Those ads are not even selling products I would be interested in. Investment scams, car accident claim ads, AI voiced robot panda. It just annoying noise.

            Nothing lasts forever.

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            He's also put a lot of work into creating a team of hosts that are genuinely wonderful to watch. Riley, Jake, Sarah, James, and Elijah to name a few. Best thing he could do for his brand is step out of the limelight, focus on being "chief vision officer" and let his wonderful talent fully take over hosting.

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              I think his org has consistently done its best and I still tune in across the channels. I know that I couldn't do better with matched resources, without experience and a lot more considerations.

              Listening to everyone hate on a whole media group puzzles me a bit.

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              LTT has done bad things and never apologized. For example he copied a gamersnexus script and never acknowledged it.

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                A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                I can't talk about the others but LTT went form a tech channel to a luxury products channel. I'd blame some of their loss on that and the controversies.

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                  He's also put a lot of work into creating a team of hosts that are genuinely wonderful to watch. Riley, Jake, Sarah, James, and Elijah to name a few. Best thing he could do for his brand is step out of the limelight, focus on being "chief vision officer" and let his wonderful talent fully take over hosting.

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                  That’s what bugs me the most, it used to be everyone making awesome fun videos, but then Linus is now the host of EVERY video. It’s just not the same

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                    A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                    EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                    EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                    Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                    Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                    Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                    Broadly maybe the viewers are just getting sick of all of the shilling for cheap shit that goes on with the ever increasing sponsor segments so many channels have these days. Arguments will be had about just how needed all of those marketing dollars are for the creator to keep doing their thing vs them getting used to a lot of money and wanting even more of it. But the end result is a worse viewing experience for the consumer. I know there are a lot of channels that make good content that I've stopped watching because they spend a quarter of the video shilling junk. Sure sponserblock would get rid of those sections, but it won't send a message like unsubscribing and stopping watching them completely will.

                    Also maybe this is a larger Youtube usage hit due to their aggressive anti-adblock nonsense and uptick in ads and shitty UI design.

                    For Linus specifically, he has the above issues as well as having been very publicly outed as a slimy deuce. What his channels put out is not unique enough these days to justify dealing with the shilling and his companies bad behavior.

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                    • M [email protected]

                      A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                      EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                      EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                      Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                      Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                      Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                      Yeah, because Linus is kinda shit more and more. Hes wholly turned me off from his content over the years because of how he acts, what he says, etc. And you can 'trust me bro' on that.

                      I really like and appreciate people like Steve. I like what he's doing and how he's doing things. He hasn't become a greedy corpo and hes just a very intelligent and caring person who believes in standing up for what's right; Even if that means calling out a friend in the industry.

                      I feel like Linus is out of touch with reality. He's not at all down to earth anymore.

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                        That’s what bugs me the most, it used to be everyone making awesome fun videos, but then Linus is now the host of EVERY video. It’s just not the same

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                        Huh, I've been watching them since like 2016 or so and I seem to remember him hosting more frequently back in the day. Seems like now he does most of the main channel videos while everyone else handles Short Circuit and the like. My personal theory is that Linus is grooming Elijah to be his replacement. But we'll see.

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                          A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                          EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                          EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                          Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                          Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                          Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                          LTT had multiple pretty bad scandals, didn't they? I recently needed to find some technical information and other places had better information. LTT seems to be more of a pop culture tech channel? I don't even really know how to describe what I mean. It's like the reviews are more like fluff pieces I guess? They aren't super duper technical. But I also don't watch them much so maybe I missed something.

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                            LLMs are doing things like summarizing videos and then using the summaries to answer queries that before would have been a search result with monetization.

                            Google's executives are unconcerned about the declinibg incentives to create YouTube videos having been sold on the lie that the future of the internet lies in Ai generated content. In other words robots will make the internet.

                            Robots which hallucinate constantly.

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                            Remember when search summaries were just extracts from the top result instead of LLM hallucinations? Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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                              My theory is that we have a limited number of hours a day to view content. We also have a growing number of channels and content in general. Algorithms include new content we kight enjoy, and for every new channel we get hooked on, one of the older ones drops off.

                              Tv shows rarely (ever?) Last forever. Why should channels?

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                              Wiith how often either someone I know or some random user is like, here watch this. And it's anywhere from 15-60 minute video. How many hours day do you think I have. Just sum up what you're trying to show me in a few sentences.

                              It's like the 21st century version of useless work meetings.

                              This didn't need to be a meeting.
                              This didn't need to be a Youtube video.
                              This didn't need to be a podcast.
                              It's oversaturation.

                              Same goes with podcasts. I'm sure we're past peak podcasting too. Everyone and their dog has a podcast. 99% of them are private conversations that have no reason for existing as podcasts. People are recording a random conversation about nothing and calling it a podcast episode. Just stop.

                              I don't even watch so many hours of TV shows. I have maybe two or three shows I'll be watching at any given time. That's like a few hours a week. The algorithmic content pushing has lost the plot. They expect us to be robotic content consuming machines 24 hours a day, seven days week. I have to eat and shit and earn a living so I can continue to sustain my physical existence so I can consume content. I suppose this is the natural end goal of adtech companies like Google. A tireless soulless machine that devours humanity.

                              Much of the content has become useless fluff. A good chunk of Youtube videos and podcasts are just friends bantering or cackling over inside jokes. Like why am I listening to this noise being blasted from my headphone to my ears. I'm over it.

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                                Okay buddy.

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                                9 days on Lemmy and you are already being a jerk and using votes. Miss reddit do you?

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                                  A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                  EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                  EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                  Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                  Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                  Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                  Fuck Linus.

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                                    A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                    EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                    EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                    Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                    Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                    Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                    The problem is those channels are very similar. I get tired of hearing the same thing again and again. There is really no need for weekly news

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                                      A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                      EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                      EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                      Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                      Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                      Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                      Google is making users/consumers not want to use/consume google things by making those things more difficult, more invasive, less user friendly to use/consume.

                                      That's it. That's all.

                                      If I just want to watch a clip that I could before but now I have to sign in because it thinks I'm a not, NO

                                      If it wants me to watch ads for things I'll never buy and actually forces me to, NO.

                                      If it kills the front ends I prefer to use, or kills the ability to watch via proxy, for my privacy and/or security. NO.

                                      If it feeds me Nazi shit without clicking a single link on a new install on a new browser with no profile on a new IP, fucking NO.

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                                        I dunno I’ve still yet to see ads. Between Smart Tube Next on my TV, Firefox with uBlock origin on my computer, and AdGuard + Vinegar on my phone, nothing gets through, even with their latest efforts.

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                                        Okay, but what are you still even watching on YT? The only media I even occasionally consume is Well There's Your Problem, the occasional FoundryVTT HowTo, and the odd clip I get sent from friends.

                                        Yeah, NewPiped screens out all the shitty ads. But so much of the core content is some Mr Beast style slop, I've got little reason to look at my front page.

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                                          9 days on Lemmy and you are already being a jerk and using votes. Miss reddit do you?

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                                          Your insecurity is showing.

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