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"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership

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  • bilb@lemmy.mlB [email protected]

    The views halved, the likes stayed the same. So the ratio of likes to views is now higher.

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    Yes, likes/views is higher but you originally said views/likes is higher.

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      About the Billet Labs thing, they have shown, and Billet Labs verified it, that the original agreement was that LTT would keep the cooler.

      Shown where? I’ve seen no evidence of that anywhere, and I was following that controversy when it happened.

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      Here is the post from Billet Labs themselves where they verify that they only asked for the cooler back after the video had been released: https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/18d6m3u/deleted_by_user/kcfmcnz/

      Now, i'm not saying that LTT didn't do Billet Lbs dirty in regards to this whole situation.

      They did not test the cooler correctly, and Linus was less than resonable in regards to retesting and such (something he has adressed himself here: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1526180-gamers-nexus-alleges-lmg-has-insufficient-ethics-and-integrity/page/16/#comment-16078641 ).

      But people keep hanging up that they sold when they were supposed to send it back, when there was no such agreement beforehand.

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        Here is the post from Billet Labs themselves where they verify that they only asked for the cooler back after the video had been released: https://www.reddit.com/r/LinusTechTips/comments/18d6m3u/deleted_by_user/kcfmcnz/

        Now, i'm not saying that LTT didn't do Billet Lbs dirty in regards to this whole situation.

        They did not test the cooler correctly, and Linus was less than resonable in regards to retesting and such (something he has adressed himself here: https://linustechtips.com/topic/1526180-gamers-nexus-alleges-lmg-has-insufficient-ethics-and-integrity/page/16/#comment-16078641 ).

        But people keep hanging up that they sold when they were supposed to send it back, when there was no such agreement beforehand.

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        Thanks for that. Not entirely as bad as originally indicated, but still pretty shady on LTT’s part

        With everything I know of it, Linus was just rug-sweeping it before the exposé. Feels like Billet Labs got screwed but took the high road to prevent drama because LTT has a big community.

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          I guess I'm not that into that so wouldn't find something to interest me on youtube. I probably don't bother watching 99% of my feed, and just use YouTube when I need to reference something these days.

          Like finding out a location from a video game or looking up a recipe to cook. I don't find myself liking majority of the "big YouTube as a job" type channels, and videos I tend to view when searching has been more "this is my only upload because it seemed interesting" type videos.

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          I watch a huge range, from 100 subs to 20m. I've spent years making a decent sub list to watch so I avoid most issues about trash content.

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            Ok, is it possible if most people aren't blocking ads, then maybe it is the ads themselves?

            There are so many and they are getting longer. I wouldnt sit around to watch videos if they are interrupted every minute. The average rando probably goes back to TikTok, Facebook, or Instagram if they have to wait for something. If I used any of those services, I know I would jump ship.

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            That‘s an interesting hypothesis. I‘ve also mentioned a shift in the algorithm that favors smaller channels a little more in another comment.

            If we take into account that a lot more people also browse Youtube shorts now and older channels have been struggling with it then we have a good mix of things that drive potential viewers away from many channels.

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            • mr_pip@discuss.tchncs.deM [email protected]

              what gpu fiasco are you referring to?

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              https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FGW3TPytTjc&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F&embeds_referring_origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com

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                Also, probably a great time to turn updates to your OS off, as Google is taking away the ability to sideload (well, kinda). It's a whole story. Highly doubt that SmartTube Next is gonna get a licence to allow signing of their app.

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                How do I do that on my android tv?

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                  A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                  EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                  EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                  Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                  Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                  Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                  Because people wont stay 14 to 16 year olds for long

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                  • R [email protected]

                    I watch a huge range, from 100 subs to 20m. I've spent years making a decent sub list to watch so I avoid most issues about trash content.

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                    I cut my sub list down over the years to like 20.

                    I think I just don't typically like YouTube type content for entertainment compared to the average viewer.

                    It's use to me is more as a resource for when I need a video guide. So I'm more likely to get annoyed by videos that don't get to the point and seem drawn out and seem like informercials likely due to the reason I'm searching increasing the chances of that type of content.

                    My blocklist is more valuable than the subscription feed for that reason.

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                      I stopped watching LTT years ago. His channel is crap. He's a tech personality who seems to barely understand technology, so most of his videos are just over the top bullshit and stunts. Not to mention his awful annoying vocal fry. He's like the male Fran Drescher.

                      Plus, Linus has been a complete asshole to GamersNexus, one of the best channels for investigative journalism in tech. As far as I'm concerned, Linus is your typical business entity, and lacking ethics.

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                      I never watched that channel very much, but in the several videos I’ve seen (maybe 10-12 total?), he seemed to know exactly what he was talking about.

                      I’d be interested in hearing what specific complaints technical experts have with the channel.

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                        Oh, so that is why Veritasium went to shit. That's such a shame. It was a great channel that I was excited about when a new video would drop. Then low quality videos started coming out and I don't watch them anymore. Haven't unsubscribe yet though, maybe I should get around to that.

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                        Honestly
                        The PFAS and Monsanto videos were quite good in my opinion.

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                          Everyone here is speculating about their content, but the simple answer is YouTube just changed how they count the view number. The change basically happened overnight, so it's not some slow attrition of views. They said in the WAN Show that while the view count halved, the number of likes hasn't changed (the view/like ratio doubled), and the revenue they earned hasn't changed (CPM doubled). All of this points that the same number of humans are watching, but what counts as a view in the "views" number just changed.

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                          Could back up that theory that it's autoplay views being reduced and they are not worth much anyway

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                            Maybe at some point we can all stop watching and hence supporting YouTube, that'd be nice.

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                            Or if you use adblock and stream at 4k, google will lose money when you watch videos. Free content while fucking google over is a win win in my book.

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                              I stopped watching LTT years ago. His channel is crap. He's a tech personality who seems to barely understand technology, so most of his videos are just over the top bullshit and stunts. Not to mention his awful annoying vocal fry. He's like the male Fran Drescher.

                              Plus, Linus has been a complete asshole to GamersNexus, one of the best channels for investigative journalism in tech. As far as I'm concerned, Linus is your typical business entity, and lacking ethics.

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                              It's actually worse than that.

                              He does know some stuff about technology and his team knows the stuff that he maybe doesn't know.

                              But in the fight with GamersNexus Linus basically admitted that they don't have time to properly fact check stuff because they would make less money if they released less videos.

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                                I stopped watching LTT years ago. His channel is crap. He's a tech personality who seems to barely understand technology, so most of his videos are just over the top bullshit and stunts. Not to mention his awful annoying vocal fry. He's like the male Fran Drescher.

                                Plus, Linus has been a complete asshole to GamersNexus, one of the best channels for investigative journalism in tech. As far as I'm concerned, Linus is your typical business entity, and lacking ethics.

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                                Hes an emotionally stunted 13 year old, that thinks its funny to keep dropping/breaking things that most normal people could never afford to even touch, who is quick to criticize the wrongs of everyone else, but acts like a goddamn martyr as soon as you criticize him and his behavior.

                                his response to GamersNexus "being mean" by reporting facts backed up by receipts and evidence is only the tip of the iceberg.

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                                  So you’re also contributing to the declining viewership that these channels are complaining about. They make no money off of your watch time so to them it is the same as no view at all.

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                                  The only reason adblock is even a thing is because all these adserving companies do NOTHING to police the ads that they show on their networks.

                                  If you want to wring hands and cry, then do it about the advertisers total lack of regulation. Not about end users trying to protect themselves from porn, malware, obnoxious bullshit, out of control popups/popunders and 2 hour long pragerU videos that talk about how slavery was great for black people and that they shouldnt be so bitter about the horrors thrust upon their ancestors.

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                                    I stopped watching LTT years ago. His channel is crap. He's a tech personality who seems to barely understand technology, so most of his videos are just over the top bullshit and stunts. Not to mention his awful annoying vocal fry. He's like the male Fran Drescher.

                                    Plus, Linus has been a complete asshole to GamersNexus, one of the best channels for investigative journalism in tech. As far as I'm concerned, Linus is your typical business entity, and lacking ethics.

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                                    I agree with most of your points, but vocal fry?!

                                    That's such an asinine thing to care about.

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                                      A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                      EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                      EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                      Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                      Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                      Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                      If you are unhappy because your views went from 2M to 1M the decline is in your mental health

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                                        A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                        EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                        EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                        Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                        Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                        Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                        he's a shill.

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                                        • M [email protected]

                                          A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                          EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                          EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                          Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                          Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                          Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                          Those stupid thumbnails pushed me away

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