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"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership

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    A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

    EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
    EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

    Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

    Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

    Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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    Because people wont stay 14 to 16 year olds for long

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    • R [email protected]

      I watch a huge range, from 100 subs to 20m. I've spent years making a decent sub list to watch so I avoid most issues about trash content.

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      I cut my sub list down over the years to like 20.

      I think I just don't typically like YouTube type content for entertainment compared to the average viewer.

      It's use to me is more as a resource for when I need a video guide. So I'm more likely to get annoyed by videos that don't get to the point and seem drawn out and seem like informercials likely due to the reason I'm searching increasing the chances of that type of content.

      My blocklist is more valuable than the subscription feed for that reason.

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        I stopped watching LTT years ago. His channel is crap. He's a tech personality who seems to barely understand technology, so most of his videos are just over the top bullshit and stunts. Not to mention his awful annoying vocal fry. He's like the male Fran Drescher.

        Plus, Linus has been a complete asshole to GamersNexus, one of the best channels for investigative journalism in tech. As far as I'm concerned, Linus is your typical business entity, and lacking ethics.

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        I never watched that channel very much, but in the several videos I’ve seen (maybe 10-12 total?), he seemed to know exactly what he was talking about.

        I’d be interested in hearing what specific complaints technical experts have with the channel.

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          Oh, so that is why Veritasium went to shit. That's such a shame. It was a great channel that I was excited about when a new video would drop. Then low quality videos started coming out and I don't watch them anymore. Haven't unsubscribe yet though, maybe I should get around to that.

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          Honestly
          The PFAS and Monsanto videos were quite good in my opinion.

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            Everyone here is speculating about their content, but the simple answer is YouTube just changed how they count the view number. The change basically happened overnight, so it's not some slow attrition of views. They said in the WAN Show that while the view count halved, the number of likes hasn't changed (the view/like ratio doubled), and the revenue they earned hasn't changed (CPM doubled). All of this points that the same number of humans are watching, but what counts as a view in the "views" number just changed.

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            #352

            Could back up that theory that it's autoplay views being reduced and they are not worth much anyway

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              Maybe at some point we can all stop watching and hence supporting YouTube, that'd be nice.

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              Or if you use adblock and stream at 4k, google will lose money when you watch videos. Free content while fucking google over is a win win in my book.

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                I stopped watching LTT years ago. His channel is crap. He's a tech personality who seems to barely understand technology, so most of his videos are just over the top bullshit and stunts. Not to mention his awful annoying vocal fry. He's like the male Fran Drescher.

                Plus, Linus has been a complete asshole to GamersNexus, one of the best channels for investigative journalism in tech. As far as I'm concerned, Linus is your typical business entity, and lacking ethics.

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                It's actually worse than that.

                He does know some stuff about technology and his team knows the stuff that he maybe doesn't know.

                But in the fight with GamersNexus Linus basically admitted that they don't have time to properly fact check stuff because they would make less money if they released less videos.

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                • T [email protected]

                  I stopped watching LTT years ago. His channel is crap. He's a tech personality who seems to barely understand technology, so most of his videos are just over the top bullshit and stunts. Not to mention his awful annoying vocal fry. He's like the male Fran Drescher.

                  Plus, Linus has been a complete asshole to GamersNexus, one of the best channels for investigative journalism in tech. As far as I'm concerned, Linus is your typical business entity, and lacking ethics.

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                  Hes an emotionally stunted 13 year old, that thinks its funny to keep dropping/breaking things that most normal people could never afford to even touch, who is quick to criticize the wrongs of everyone else, but acts like a goddamn martyr as soon as you criticize him and his behavior.

                  his response to GamersNexus "being mean" by reporting facts backed up by receipts and evidence is only the tip of the iceberg.

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                    So you’re also contributing to the declining viewership that these channels are complaining about. They make no money off of your watch time so to them it is the same as no view at all.

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                    The only reason adblock is even a thing is because all these adserving companies do NOTHING to police the ads that they show on their networks.

                    If you want to wring hands and cry, then do it about the advertisers total lack of regulation. Not about end users trying to protect themselves from porn, malware, obnoxious bullshit, out of control popups/popunders and 2 hour long pragerU videos that talk about how slavery was great for black people and that they shouldnt be so bitter about the horrors thrust upon their ancestors.

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                      I stopped watching LTT years ago. His channel is crap. He's a tech personality who seems to barely understand technology, so most of his videos are just over the top bullshit and stunts. Not to mention his awful annoying vocal fry. He's like the male Fran Drescher.

                      Plus, Linus has been a complete asshole to GamersNexus, one of the best channels for investigative journalism in tech. As far as I'm concerned, Linus is your typical business entity, and lacking ethics.

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                      I agree with most of your points, but vocal fry?!

                      That's such an asinine thing to care about.

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                      • M [email protected]

                        A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                        EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                        EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                        Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                        Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                        Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                        If you are unhappy because your views went from 2M to 1M the decline is in your mental health

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                        • M [email protected]

                          A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                          EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                          EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                          Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                          Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                          Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                          he's a shill.

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                          • M [email protected]

                            A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                            EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                            EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                            Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                            Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                            Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                            Those stupid thumbnails pushed me away

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                            • N [email protected]

                              It's actually worse than that.

                              He does know some stuff about technology and his team knows the stuff that he maybe doesn't know.

                              But in the fight with GamersNexus Linus basically admitted that they don't have time to properly fact check stuff because they would make less money if they released less videos.

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                              That's from way back when. They shut production for a week, reassessed how they make things, and came back with the promise to be more thorough and not release a video when it's just not done that day. And they have "missed" some days since.

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                              • arararagi@ani.socialA [email protected]

                                People are jumping the gun on Linus here, but it's real, the Second Wind crew do a great job and their recent videos, even the Fully Ramblomatic series are doing way worse.

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                                I stopped watching Second Wind after Frost's video.

                                Did they ever address it?

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                                  If you are unhappy because your views went from 2M to 1M the decline is in your mental health

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                                  It's the capitalism brain that says: If you are not growing you are dying

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                                    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FGW3TPytTjc&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com%2F&embeds_referring_origin=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.reddit.com

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                                    Clean your URL's, please.

                                    https://youtube.com/watch?v=FGW3TPytTjc

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                                    • M [email protected]

                                      A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                      EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                      EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                      Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                      Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                      Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                      I'm sure declining viewers has nothing to do with the various controversies such as auctioning off prototypes, rushed reviews with misleading or false conclusions, mistreating staff etc. Channels like Gamers Nexus really laid into him.

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                                        I cut my sub list down over the years to like 20.

                                        I think I just don't typically like YouTube type content for entertainment compared to the average viewer.

                                        It's use to me is more as a resource for when I need a video guide. So I'm more likely to get annoyed by videos that don't get to the point and seem drawn out and seem like informercials likely due to the reason I'm searching increasing the chances of that type of content.

                                        My blocklist is more valuable than the subscription feed for that reason.

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                                        Fair enough, I use mine as basically a replacement for any other streaming platform, so it's more about entertainment than raw usefulness.

                                        My sub list is ever growing, at about 150 now. I don't watch a lot of what's put out by them but that's where I start when I want to watch something. The main YouTube feed is... Unreliable at best

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                                          I think you've hit it on the nose right here. Especially since this declining viewership problem has been hitting channels across all of YouTube and it has only been since they started their crusade against ad blockers.

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                                          It is part of that, but youtube is consumed more on tvs than other devices now worldwide. Now that means that the people who now watch YT are less likely to watch LTT because that is not their focus. I mean shorts are a huge part of YT yet most people seem to dislike them.

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