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"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership

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  • I [email protected]

    I don't have an hour to spend watching someone talk into a camera, can I get a TLDR?

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    Me neither. And it's probably contributing to þe declining viewership.

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      Its because theres too many "dead subscriptions". The algorithm punishes channels that have subs that dont interact with saud channel.

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      This is such a strange concept. Like fundamentally a subscription is just a mechanism to allow a viewer to easily keep track of new content on a channel. By viewing the channels contents you're engaging in 100% of the interaction you should be expected to have with a subscribed channel. If Google really wanted to address the problem of old subscriptions people are ignoring they should just prompt people to unsubscribe to channels that they haven't watched any videos from in a long time. Instead they're fucking with view counts because that saves them money. The whole thing is fishy, but Google has always treated being inscrutable and capricious as if those were virtues.

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        Like doing what? All I see is the most bias video about nothing for an hour long. He is this bias and that's the worst stuff he can find? I've taken dumps that were more offensive. Compared to any other person in the news and this is milk toast bland.

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        #31

        I haven't seen the video yet either, but that's not bias, that's Louis Rossmann. He always speaks like that. He's not a random tech YouTuber. He's very provocative and holds a cult-like fanbase (though I haven't watched enough of his to have an opinion whether that's warranted; I personally don't like provocative rage content but that seems to be all the rage).

        Also, there's extensive chaptering with a title for each.

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        • M [email protected]

          A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

          EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
          EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

          Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

          Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

          Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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          Don't care

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            A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

            EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
            EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

            Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

            Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

            Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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            Note that Sportskeeda is a user-generated source.

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              The problem is that there aren't any really viable alternatives. YouTube has three major advantages and all three are necessary. First and most critically it has a viable business model (that is it has a way to earn money to pay creators). It's a shitty business model, but it is viable which already puts it ahead of most services that are coasting on VC funds and hoping they'll trip over a business model before they go bankrupt. Second it has the infrastructure and capital to actually serve content. Running a video streaming service is the single largest bandwidth consumer you could possibly come up with and that means considerable network infrastructure costs, to say nothing of the storage demands. Third it has network effect going for it. Nobody is going to watch videos on your platform if there's only a couple dozen of them total. The sheer size and scope of YouTube means no matter what you're looking for you can find something to watch. It's a one stop shop for AV content.

              Every single competitor to YouTube has failed on one of those points, usually the first one, rarely the second. The last service I saw come close to hitting all three was Vimeo, but it flamed out not even a decade after it launched. Twitch.tv is struggling to make their accounting work and isn't even a direct competitor because they're pushing hard for live streams as opposed to pre-recorded videos. Alternatives like PeerTube have no business model and will never attract creators or a mainstream audience. Paid hosting platforms like Floatplane are replacements for traditional video streaming services like Amazon Video or Netflix not really platforms where just anybody can set up a channel and start posting videos.

              To paraphrase a famous saying, YouTube is the worst public video streaming service except for every other one. Until someone comes along and figures out how to make enough money to reliably pay creators and has enough capital to actually serve that content reliably and in high quality YouTube isn't going anywhere.

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              #34

              I wanna like Peertube as an alternative, but I can't find any content I like there. And the app is so awkward to use.

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                It's insane he ever had a healthy viewership in the first place.

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                His videos have always seemed like long-form advertisements for various tech products

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                • N [email protected]

                  His videos have always seemed like long-form advertisements for various tech products

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                  I learned about him right before his whole PopOs thing. I couldn't believe that people would take computing advice from someone who also doesn't read what's on the screen in front of him. I expect this from my users I do tech support for, but not someone that bills himself as something as an expert.

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                  • M [email protected]

                    A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                    EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                    EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                    Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                    Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                    Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                    #37

                    odysee
                    peertube

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                      What would make me really happy is if viewership across YouTube entirely was down because people were getting fed up with YouTube and shifting to alternatives.

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                      #38

                      Honestly, YouTube is the “least bad” of most commercial social media.

                      If people go to Twitter or Discord or whatever instead, that would be awful.

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                      • M [email protected]

                        A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                        EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                        EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                        Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                        Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                        Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                        I dunno. Something about the content I think.

                        A few years back some of their content was fun and interesting. Now lately it's all either "here's a bunch of comparisons of hardware you can't even afford" or "Linus puts some ridiculous tech in his own personal house - thanks for subsidizing his home improvement projects by the way"

                        I will still watch an occasional video but there are other tech related channels that I enjoy a lot more.

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                          A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                          EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                          EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                          Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                          Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                          Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                          Problem with their channel specifically, is their hypocrisy, BS, lack of research and just misleading their viewer-base. People remember.

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                          • K [email protected]

                            I wanna like Peertube as an alternative, but I can't find any content I like there. And the app is so awkward to use.

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                            I use Odysee and Peertube where possible but yeah they're somewhat awkward, and the biggest thing I typically miss is the comments. As awful as most Youtube comments are, the critical mass is there, if you're looking for a quick link to something in the video, the summary that the author should've included but didn't, the correction where the author was wrong, or something else of actual value, chances are whatever it is you're trying to find somewhere on the top heap of Youtube comments. As with most social media, the value is not in the service itself, it's in the community. Steering that community towards somewhere where it will actually be appreciated is a herculean task when someone has to be the pioneers and live in that desert and put in the work to prepare it for the ones who will come after them.

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                              I wanna like Peertube as an alternative, but I can't find any content I like there. And the app is so awkward to use.

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                              Are you me?

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                                I use Odysee and Peertube where possible but yeah they're somewhat awkward, and the biggest thing I typically miss is the comments. As awful as most Youtube comments are, the critical mass is there, if you're looking for a quick link to something in the video, the summary that the author should've included but didn't, the correction where the author was wrong, or something else of actual value, chances are whatever it is you're trying to find somewhere on the top heap of Youtube comments. As with most social media, the value is not in the service itself, it's in the community. Steering that community towards somewhere where it will actually be appreciated is a herculean task when someone has to be the pioneers and live in that desert and put in the work to prepare it for the ones who will come after them.

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                                As much as I do complain about Peertube, I do like how it's like the old personal blog days. Just kinda quietly do your own thing. I'm actually thinking of starting a channel to teach Japanese. I'll probably have a few lines of my diary and break down the vocabulary and grammar in English and French. It's like shit nobody would give a crap about, but it'll get me to keep up with my diary and maybe someone will find the info useful, which I think the earlier days of personal websites and blogs were like.

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                                  A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                  EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                  EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                  Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                  Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                  Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                  I was never a fan of Linus tech tips. He always seemed like a weird guy. I did watch that video where he totally fucked his Linux installation by being really dumb. The package manager warned him that he was about to destroy his system and made him type something like "Yes, I know what I'm doing". He then reacted like, "why would Linux do this to me!? It's so hard!"

                                  Either a paid shill or an absolute moron.

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                                    A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                    EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                    EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                    Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                    Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                    Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                    He will look for answers literally anywhere, except for within.

                                    The tech scene is just not as interesting anymore, and the stuff he specifically covers is even less interesting. But the bigger issue is that everything LMG do is just corporate jank. It was fun when it was home garage jank, with 2 employees, but now it's just miserable and frustrating. And thats not even taking any of the interpersonal issues, or legal drama from recent history

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                                      I dunno. Something about the content I think.

                                      A few years back some of their content was fun and interesting. Now lately it's all either "here's a bunch of comparisons of hardware you can't even afford" or "Linus puts some ridiculous tech in his own personal house - thanks for subsidizing his home improvement projects by the way"

                                      I will still watch an occasional video but there are other tech related channels that I enjoy a lot more.

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                                      The clickbait titles and thumbnails destroyed most of the interest I had in their videos but at that time, it was clear that they were pivoting to a more typical less enthusiast-level audience. I still found some of their occasional videos somewhat interesting but the increasing hypocrisy and shit they've pulled made me stop watching all together.

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                                        Like doing what? All I see is the most bias video about nothing for an hour long. He is this bias and that's the worst stuff he can find? I've taken dumps that were more offensive. Compared to any other person in the news and this is milk toast bland.

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                                        Like doing what? All I see is the most bias video about nothing for an hour long. He is this bias and that's the worst stuff he can find? I've taken dumps that were more offensive. Compared to any other person in the news and this is milk toast bland.

                                        Tl;dr: please, no one watch Linus showing his whole ass.

                                        Are you on his staff or something, or just a fanboy/flying monkey?

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                                          I guess the point is channels are seeing a dropping viewership across the board. Or at least two different creators of VERY different videos have had the same experience so far. And the reddit thread behind this has more people (assuming they are telling the truth) confirming the drop.

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                                          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo

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