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"Very dramatic shift" - Linus Tech Tips opens up about the channel's declining viewership

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  • M [email protected]

    What we, as users, desere is transparency in the algorithm and significant input into how it works for us. Do you like big channels, small channels? etc. The problem is when people opt-out of sponsored content, but also refuse to pay. Transparency in the cost of delivery of service and the income from advertising would help there too, except if the service provider is wanting obscene profits.

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    "if"

    greed is the fundamental premise of capitalism, the primary psychological mechanism exploited to perpetuate its existence.

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    • D [email protected]

      Not going to take a side here, but the fact you said "you were OK with the sexual harassment", when the other commenter said nothing as such, does not show that you are arguing in good faith.

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      they dismissed the allegations because a group LTT paid to look into it said nothing happened. so yeah they absolutely said they were OK with sexual harassment. I'm not going to argue this with you, either, because I am not interested in whatever rationalization for sexual harassment you've prepared.

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        Yeah, that's what I'm basing what I said on. You can see GN thanking Linus for quick action, and being understanding that an inexperienced writer could make such a mistake.

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        "quick action"

        3 years later and only after Linus made vague legal threats to GN about Honey requiring GN to publicize LTT's past bad behavior.

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        • D [email protected]

          Billet Labs explicitly said in the email that "you could keep it". They changed their mind later. So what's the lie? The emails confirm Linus's version.

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          "..

          Regarding LTT, we are simply going to state the relevant facts:

          On 10th August, we were told by LTT via email that the block had been sold at auction. There was no apology.

          We replied on 10th August within 30 minutes, telling LTT that this wasn't okay, and that this was a £XXXX prototype, and we asked if they planned to reimburse us at all.

          We received no reply and no offer of payment until 2 hours after the Gamers Nexus video went live on 14th August, at which point Linus himself emailed us directly.

          The exact monetary value of the prototype was offered as reimbursement. We have not received, nor have we asked for any other form of compensation."

          Time-stamped emails were provided as proof.

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          • P [email protected]

            Or if you use adblock and stream at 4k, google will lose money when you watch videos. Free content while fucking google over is a win win in my book.

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            It's a big waste of energy to stream in 4K, so if I were you I'd simply not watch the video.

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              Perhaps the lesser of the two evils, considering Google's dominance. But yes, far from ideal.

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              #412

              Google's dominance

              Is it? Try to ask <18y.o. if they even ever open Youtube.
              Google is not dominant in the video streaming context any more.

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                youtube is consumed more on tvs than other devices now worldwide

                Where do you get this from?

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                I have seen multiple reports about it!
                One quick search revealed this forbes report earlier this year

                https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradadgate/2025/02/12/launched-20-years-ago-more-people-are-now-watching-youtube-on-tv/

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                • J [email protected]

                  What I've noticed is YouTube recommending me more obscure videos, from very small creators.

                  I very much appreciate whatever they're doing, regardless of how these bigger channels are being hit by it. Yesterday I got recommended a video by an elderly woman, showing a mug warmer she bought. It was very sweet, had less than 30 views and it was a lovely contrast to the flashy, over edited videos stretching a paragraph to 10+ minutes.

                  Not saying the big channels are bad, I just personally like the small time channels and appreciate that YouTube has been (at least with the algorithm it has set for me) giving these small channels a shot at getting an audience.
                  I've connected with a lot of people from smaller channels, joined communities etc. yet this is much more difficult with the larger ones (in some I've been to, over the years, the chatrooms they set up are so huge the moderation sometimes just gives up or doesn't even exist in any practical way).

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                  YouTube should have a way to filter out certain content.

                  Like sub 1000 subscriber Chanel's, 1000-10,000 channels, >10,000 etc

                  Sometimes you just don't want to watch the big time YouTubers.

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                  • S [email protected]

                    I stopped watching LTT videos when they just became long-form ads. Or when everyone five minutes was a sponsored segment.

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                    sponsorblock

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                    • C [email protected]

                      Those stupid thumbnails pushed me away

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                      Damn straight. I've actively starting avoiding videos with "stupid" thumbnails or click-bait titles in the last few months.

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                        sponsorblock

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                        LTT is probably the reason why I started using Sponsorblock 😂

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                        • F [email protected]

                          I agree with most of your points, but vocal fry?!

                          That's such an asinine thing to care about.

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                          I just find his voice very irritating. I know not everyone feels that way.

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                          • M [email protected]

                            A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                            EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                            EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                            Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                            Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                            Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                            I dont know if anyone has noticed but...
                            Can we no longer watch youtube without being logged in? Every embedded video i see doesnt work. Every time i try to click on a video it tells me to sign in.
                            If i have an ad block running it basically blocks the website.

                            I really think its the auto plays and the untracked accounts.

                            Youtube would rather be able to track every user and make more profit per person than go big tent all audiences.

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                            • M [email protected]

                              he's a shill.

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                              Has been for a very long time. I quit watching his video after I saw him post a thing that was going on and on about the superiority of the product in his left hand over the right, and how much faster it was and blah blah blah.
                              Both products were bandwidth limited by the PCI bus and there was no advantage to the expensive one he was hawking.

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                              • C [email protected]

                                Because people wont stay 14 to 16 year olds for long

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                                Personally I was only 14-16 for like 5 years at most

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                                • K [email protected]

                                  I dont know if anyone has noticed but...
                                  Can we no longer watch youtube without being logged in? Every embedded video i see doesnt work. Every time i try to click on a video it tells me to sign in.
                                  If i have an ad block running it basically blocks the website.

                                  I really think its the auto plays and the untracked accounts.

                                  Youtube would rather be able to track every user and make more profit per person than go big tent all audiences.

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                                  Can't confirm this. YouTube runs like always von my setup (and wihout an account).

                                  edit: except the Trending page of course.

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                                  • S [email protected]

                                    He generates far too much content without any depth, and it's all infotainment.

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                                    And that's what people watch. This didn't change.

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                                    • appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.comA [email protected]

                                      Trademark entries are a good indicator there is something nearer than further away.

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                                      Fingers crossed. I've been waiting a long time to get back into VR and replace my OG Vive.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        A lot of Youtube channels are reporting declining viewership lately.

                                        EX1: https://youtube.com/watch?v=cpVnx4_yqTo
                                        EX2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yF0tmhEtVJE

                                        Fun times. Looks like a lot of channels are seeing a decline not just Linus. Hes just the latest to talk about it.

                                        Then I saw this article as well and thought I would share.

                                        Anyone here youtube creators? Are you seeing the same thing, a general downturn in viewership?

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                                        Some other analysis: https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2025/youtube-views-are-down-dont-panic

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                                        • K [email protected]

                                          I dont know if anyone has noticed but...
                                          Can we no longer watch youtube without being logged in? Every embedded video i see doesnt work. Every time i try to click on a video it tells me to sign in.
                                          If i have an ad block running it basically blocks the website.

                                          I really think its the auto plays and the untracked accounts.

                                          Youtube would rather be able to track every user and make more profit per person than go big tent all audiences.

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                                          It's hit or miss for me with my VPN, but between using an Invidious instance, Freetube, DDG video search, and cycling VPN locations, I'm never, ever logged in to YT.

                                          And yes, Google/YT wants to track everything. Third party doctrine means that governments will pay them for this data rather than run their own surveillance systems. Anything that you've watched that can be used against you will be if it suits someone else.

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