Free Speech Goes Only One Way
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OP: Instead of posting an image of an image of text without link to source or text alternative, which breaks accessibility, searchability, and fault tolerance for no compelling reason while making the web less usable, could you try at least linking to source?
Covie
@covie_93on x formerly known as twitter:Minutes after former President Jimmy Carter's death was announced Scott Jennings was on CNN calling him a "terrible president" with a "big ego". He wasn't fired. He never apologized.
After Paul Pelosi was attacked Fox News hosts joked about it on air. They weren't fired. They never apologized.
After Charlie Kirk was killed Matthew Dowd said on MSNBC that he was "divisive" adding, "hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions." He was fired after apologizing.
Free speech only goes one way.
Sep 11, 2025 · 3:08 AM UTC
It's totally comprehensible why users here do not post links to this hatespeech platform imho.
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I still can't believe they wanted people to send pictures of their arms to prove they are a person of color before posting/commenting. Okay, maybe I can believe that. What I can't believe is that anyone defended it
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OP: Instead of posting an image of an image of text without link to source or text alternative, which breaks accessibility, searchability, and fault tolerance for no compelling reason while making the web less usable, could you try at least linking to source?
Find a real news source did if you want real news. This a Wendy's.
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Edit: Guess who won't face any accountability.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Free speech is to allow the multi-billionaire companies to advertise their products to the masses.
It isn't free speech so much as a right to advertise. It helps billionaire companies much more than anyone else. -
Covie
@covie_93on x formerly known as twitter:Minutes after former President Jimmy Carter's death was announced Scott Jennings was on CNN calling him a "terrible president" with a "big ego". He wasn't fired. He never apologized.
After Paul Pelosi was attacked Fox News hosts joked about it on air. They weren't fired. They never apologized.
After Charlie Kirk was killed Matthew Dowd said on MSNBC that he was "divisive" adding, "hateful thoughts lead to hateful words, which then lead to hateful actions." He was fired after apologizing.
Free speech only goes one way.
Sep 11, 2025 · 3:08 AM UTC
It's totally comprehensible why users here do not post links to this hatespeech platform imho.
It’s totally comprehensible
Not really.
Not linking to source, because they hate the hosting platform is feel-good, petty vindictiveness that that does little against the platform while actually hurting the uninvolved on accessibility & usability.
To prevent traffic to platforms, linking to alternatives like proxies for those services & web archival snapshots is common practice around here. -
Find a real news source did if you want real news. This a Wendy's.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Are you enabling/promoting exclusion & ableism?
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Posts like this, and most comments to be honest. Really makes me question how low the bar is in the US in terms of general education. You all talk about "Freedom of speech" while not having a single clue as to what it actually is.
Freedom of speech, protects you from your government (with some exceptions, often being, threats, incitement, disclosing classified information, and things of that nature), that's it.
Freedom of speech, is all of those people saying all of those things, without facing criminal charges or other forms of retaliation from the government.
It does not, will not, and never have, protected you from losing employment because of what you say.
Nobody ever said this was about the first ammendment. Its illustrating the double standards the oligarchs have set for everyone who isn't on their side. Everybody knows at this point the government and oligarchy are one and the same.
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Are you enabling/promoting exclusion & ableism?
Yes, be able to Google something. Hard to imagine anyone here on lemmy can't manage that
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Edit: Guess who won't face any accountability.
The BBC was able to report on his controversy easier
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Nobody ever said this was about the first ammendment. Its illustrating the double standards the oligarchs have set for everyone who isn't on their side. Everybody knows at this point the government and oligarchy are one and the same.
I agree the point is to Illustrate a double standard. I don't know if it's the same organisation that owns msnbc and fox, either way. It's still not a freedom of speech issue. Which a lot of people are claiming.
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Are you enabling/promoting exclusion & ableism?
wrote last edited by [email protected]If you're impaired, consider yourself lucky you can't read it. It's negative value to you.
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Edit: Guess who won't face any accountability.
Guess who won't face any accountability.
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What if the government is putting pressure on the organization.
Then it becomes a free speech issue.
You mean like back in 2020-21, when the Biden admin was putting pressure on Twitter to ban anyone who was critical of their COVID policies, and they even ended up deplatforming the guy who pioneered mRNA vaccines?
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You mean like back in 2020-21, when the Biden admin was putting pressure on Twitter to ban anyone who was critical of their COVID policies, and they even ended up deplatforming the guy who pioneered mRNA vaccines?
Yup, that is classic suppression. Of course you could argue that is was for the benefit of public health as opposed to a witch hunt to get a bunch of people fired for not worshipping an alt-right propagandist.
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Yup, that is classic suppression. Of course you could argue that is was for the benefit of public health as opposed to a witch hunt to get a bunch of people fired for not worshipping an alt-right propagandist.
You don't think celebrating the murder of a political enemy on national TV isn't setting a dangerous precedent to encourage more political violence from both sides? Do you really want to live in a world where people just get shot for having a different opinion from yours?
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You don't think celebrating the murder of a political enemy on national TV isn't setting a dangerous precedent to encourage more political violence from both sides? Do you really want to live in a world where people just get shot for having a different opinion from yours?
First of all no one did this on national TV. Perhaps you referring to edge lords on the Internet making snide or rude comments. This is nothing to worry about. I heard people talk about hanging or shooting Obama for several years when I lived in Idaho. Celebrating and fantasizing about killing the President did absolutely nothing.
Second, we already live in a society where the right wing is constantly calling for violence. They have been openly talking about killing people from the Democratic party for decades. Rush Limbaugh was particularly found of this and he received the Medal of Freedom.
Let's be clear here, a couple of edgy people have celebrated his death. A lot of people recognize he was a piece of shit and are not upset at all other than to say no one should have to die this way.
The violent rhetoric comes regularly from the conservatives. Even the president of the United States sent a message he was bringing the Department of War to Chicago to enact an apocalypse. Kind of blows a few edge lords cheering on Kirk's death out of the motherfucking water.
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First of all no one did this on national TV. Perhaps you referring to edge lords on the Internet making snide or rude comments. This is nothing to worry about. I heard people talk about hanging or shooting Obama for several years when I lived in Idaho. Celebrating and fantasizing about killing the President did absolutely nothing.
Second, we already live in a society where the right wing is constantly calling for violence. They have been openly talking about killing people from the Democratic party for decades. Rush Limbaugh was particularly found of this and he received the Medal of Freedom.
Let's be clear here, a couple of edgy people have celebrated his death. A lot of people recognize he was a piece of shit and are not upset at all other than to say no one should have to die this way.
The violent rhetoric comes regularly from the conservatives. Even the president of the United States sent a message he was bringing the Department of War to Chicago to enact an apocalypse. Kind of blows a few edge lords cheering on Kirk's death out of the motherfucking water.
Well, since you can clearly tell the difference between talking about killing someone and actually killing them, I'm sure it won't be too difficult to tell the difference between fantasizing about someone's dead and actually celebrating it.
But the real problem is that while Kirk may have been a dunderhead, at least he was still willing to have a debate. The next guy they're gonna send likely isn't going to be so kind. You want fascism? Because killing the people who are willing to talk is how you get fascism.
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Well, since you can clearly tell the difference between talking about killing someone and actually killing them, I'm sure it won't be too difficult to tell the difference between fantasizing about someone's dead and actually celebrating it.
But the real problem is that while Kirk may have been a dunderhead, at least he was still willing to have a debate. The next guy they're gonna send likely isn't going to be so kind. You want fascism? Because killing the people who are willing to talk is how you get fascism.
No one is celebrating, this is the same lie told about Muslims celebrating 9/11. This is second rate propaganda and I am surprised you would peddle in this nonsense.
Kirk was much more than a dunderhead. Whatever the fuck that means. He was a hate monger and declared so by several reputable organizations. He is a horrible Martyr, one only a truly white supremacist could love.
I am under no illusion about fascism. We are a fascist nation that is slipping deeper into a techno feudalism state. I agree that Fascism thrives on violence. Going around killing people is what they already are doing. Just par for the course.
So many innocent children die every year needlessly thanks to gun proliferation. We should be collectively crying about this national loss we face year after year. It is now the number one killer of children outpacing motor vehicle collisions.
Instead we are trying to lionize a loser.
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No one is celebrating, this is the same lie told about Muslims celebrating 9/11. This is second rate propaganda and I am surprised you would peddle in this nonsense.
Kirk was much more than a dunderhead. Whatever the fuck that means. He was a hate monger and declared so by several reputable organizations. He is a horrible Martyr, one only a truly white supremacist could love.
I am under no illusion about fascism. We are a fascist nation that is slipping deeper into a techno feudalism state. I agree that Fascism thrives on violence. Going around killing people is what they already are doing. Just par for the course.
So many innocent children die every year needlessly thanks to gun proliferation. We should be collectively crying about this national loss we face year after year. It is now the number one killer of children outpacing motor vehicle collisions.
Instead we are trying to lionize a loser.
wrote last edited by [email protected]No one is celebrating
You literally said in your previous post that all the people who celebrated were edgelords, meaning there WERE people celebrating. Which is it? How about you get your own story straight before accusing me of peddling second-rate propaganda.
He was a hate monger
Whatever the fuck that means...
I agree that Fascism thrives on violence. Going around killing people is what they already are doing. Just par for the course.
Okay, so your plan for fighting fascism is doing the exact same thing that you say fascism thrives on... do you really expect that to work?
Instead we are trying to lionize a loser.
I'm certainly not trying to lionize him. I'm trying to get it through your thick head that making him a martyr for his cause was a phenomenally stupid idea, and everyone who was celebrating it is an absolute retard.
As objectionable and annoying as his words may have been while he was alive, none of them ever managed to fire up their base quite the way his death did. All this has accomplished is to pour oil on the fire. You thought fascism was bad now? Well, MAGA just got their Horst Wessel. It's about to get way worse.
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No one is celebrating
You literally said in your previous post that all the people who celebrated were edgelords, meaning there WERE people celebrating. Which is it? How about you get your own story straight before accusing me of peddling second-rate propaganda.
He was a hate monger
Whatever the fuck that means...
I agree that Fascism thrives on violence. Going around killing people is what they already are doing. Just par for the course.
Okay, so your plan for fighting fascism is doing the exact same thing that you say fascism thrives on... do you really expect that to work?
Instead we are trying to lionize a loser.
I'm certainly not trying to lionize him. I'm trying to get it through your thick head that making him a martyr for his cause was a phenomenally stupid idea, and everyone who was celebrating it is an absolute retard.
As objectionable and annoying as his words may have been while he was alive, none of them ever managed to fire up their base quite the way his death did. All this has accomplished is to pour oil on the fire. You thought fascism was bad now? Well, MAGA just got their Horst Wessel. It's about to get way worse.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Please provide proof massive amounts of people are cheering in the streets or holding block parties he is dead or just do us a favor and shut the fuck up. A few edge lords talking shit is insignificant. It is clear you are spreading propaganda at this point.
A hate monger is a purveyor of hate. It has a very clear definition unlike dunderhead which is meant to downplay the fascist little cunt he was.
What part about us living in a fascist state are you not getting. Open up your eyes for a second. We have a police force abducting legal residents, torturing them, and then sending them to random foreign countries to be imprisoned without a trial.
We are already there and have been for several decades. Did you miss the US toppling democracies and installing fascist dictators for funzies during the Cold War?
I am trying to get it through your white supremacists loving ass that this guy is the shittiest damn martyr ever. A racist asshat who openly advocated for the worst of humanity. A guy that unironically said people have to die to protect the second amendment and then was killed by a gunman.
Maga was already doing it all already, give me a fucking break. All you spew is propaganda and you are acting like a fascist apologist who wants to downplay a racist misogynist loser. Have fun erecting his statue and turning him into a saint.
