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Would you become romantically involved with someone with vastly different religious views?

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  • F [email protected]

    Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

    Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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    #57

    Hard no.

    The last thing I need is the wife pestering me constantly to go to church.

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    • F [email protected]

      Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

      Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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      #58

      Yes, if their core beliefs are the same. Kindness, compassion, generosity, etc.

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        My therapist once told me he believed that aliens had been in communication with the US government since the Reagan administration and I had to think about how I wanted to react to that for a little bit. He was an incredibly helpful therapist, but I considered that fucking nuts. I totally agree that aliens likely exist in some fashion, just as a result of probability, but I don’t think they’re here or in secret communication with humans. My therapist thinking they were made me doubt his judgment in other areas. In the end, I decided that he could have a blind spot about aliens and still be an effective therapist.

        I’m not religious, and though I absolutely respect and am almost jealous of the ritual/communal aspect of religion, I honestly think people who really believe in it are a bit deluded, which feels pretty judgmental and shitty of me. My attitude towards religious people has become a lot more open over time though- I was a stereotypical 15 year old atheist shithead in my catholic high school- so I can imagine that eventually I won’t feel at all condescending about it.

        I don’t think I would have been at all bothered if my therapist was religious (depending on the religion), but I would not be able to be in a relationship with someone who was. Weirdly, I think I’d be more accepting of a partner believing in aliens. I guess I care more about a shared understanding of the universe with a partner and more about critical thinking skills from a therapist, lol.

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        When it comes to a partner I want love, loyalty, respect, attention and affection. As long as those needs are met, and they're good looking enough to keep my eyes on them, everything else is inconsequential.

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        • F [email protected]

          Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

          Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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          It depends. My religious affiliation is likely therianthropy. I don't follow a traditional religion, and see it more as a spiritual practice, much in the same way that a trans person may deeply explore their gender identity--I am also trans.

          My requirements are simple; Code of conduct, not a code of "facts". I will not engage with creation theories and such. It is an insult to science, and often resists fundamentally good change.

          I also will not engage with a "Reddit atheist". I think this requires no further explanation--I was one.

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          • F [email protected]

            Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

            Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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            #61

            It depends on how passionate about their religion and how the aspects of that passion affects people around them.

            I'm a former/non-practicing Christian, and I consider myself agnostic or atheist now.

            I married someone with a religion from an entirely different family of religions than Christianity, originating in an entirely different part of the world. The way their religion really affects me day-to-day is that there are certain ingredients we don't keep in the home for cooking. Really not a big deal.

            But I can see dating a zealot (from a different religion or not) could pose problems

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            • F [email protected]

              Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

              Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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              #62

              It depends. I’m atheist/agnostic, but I have a lot of respect for certain core religious philosophies. Buddhism, Sikhism, and the teachings of Jesus (note that I did not say “Christianity”) in particular.

              If a persons particular practice has an ethical, humanist core I can accept that. If it encourages any kind of blind appeal or deference to authority, I cannot. I can tolerate some mysticism and mythology, but I cannot tolerate unethical teaching, dogma, or behavior.

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              • hexn3t@lemmy.blahaj.zoneH [email protected]

                It depends. My religious affiliation is likely therianthropy. I don't follow a traditional religion, and see it more as a spiritual practice, much in the same way that a trans person may deeply explore their gender identity--I am also trans.

                My requirements are simple; Code of conduct, not a code of "facts". I will not engage with creation theories and such. It is an insult to science, and often resists fundamentally good change.

                I also will not engage with a "Reddit atheist". I think this requires no further explanation--I was one.

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                #63

                What is a “Reddit atheist”? Are those the people who decry all religion as being inherrently evil and announce their atheism unprompted everywhere they go like Arch-using crossfit vegans?

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                • F [email protected]

                  Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                  Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                  #64

                  Sure. My parents had different religions and being an atheist I don't really have a duty to care about other people's religions.

                  Of course it helped that my parents weren't too seriously religious. And I've rejected religious people for having religion-tied views I find appalling. But the religion itself isn't the issue, just the things that sometimes result from it are.

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                    What is a “Reddit atheist”? Are those the people who decry all religion as being inherrently evil and announce their atheism unprompted everywhere they go like Arch-using crossfit vegans?

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                    While I am not the previous poster, that's certainly how I'd describe it. The "I am euphoric" types who care only about the circlejerk.

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                    • B [email protected]

                      What is a “Reddit atheist”? Are those the people who decry all religion as being inherrently evil and announce their atheism unprompted everywhere they go like Arch-using crossfit vegans?

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                      Aye. I'm not proud of it. If you think about it, it's kind of just conservatism, just not in an expected way.

                      I've seen a few around here.

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                      • F [email protected]

                        Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                        Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                        #67

                        Fuck no. Organized religion is the source of most of the harms in the world. There is no man in the sky. You have no special blessing to be terrible to others.

                        Capitalism is responsible for most of the rest of the harms. And then a very small percent is the result of basically-bad people and mental health issues.

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                        • hexn3t@lemmy.blahaj.zoneH [email protected]

                          Aye. I'm not proud of it. If you think about it, it's kind of just conservatism, just not in an expected way.

                          I've seen a few around here.

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                          #68

                          Growing and bettering ones self is what matters. Good on you for breaking the cycle. Not everyone can do that.

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                          • F [email protected]

                            Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                            Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                            My life partner and I both considered it critical that our beliefs were strongly compatible.

                            We've been together for decades.

                            Our beliefs have changed substantially, and certainly not identically.

                            We're still together. There's so many more important things.

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                            • F [email protected]

                              Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                              Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                              Don't be a dick.

                              That basically my only requirement.

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                                Growing and bettering ones self is what matters. Good on you for breaking the cycle. Not everyone can do that.

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                                I've made it a goal in life to put more thought into things. It is indeed a major turnaround. Thank you for the kind words!

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                                • F [email protected]

                                  Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                                  Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                                  Eww, no, I'd never date anyone with religious views.

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                                  • F [email protected]

                                    Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                                    Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                                    While I was in the process of disentangling myself from religion, the woman I lived with for nearly 10 years went off the deep end. Prosperity gospel. She became insufferable.

                                    I made a much-needed escape, and met my wife a year later. She, like me, believes religion to be a social construct, intended to keep the masses docile and obedient.

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                                      It's certainly weird how many people say that they believe and then just ... don't do anything that their belief says they should do.

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                                      I think people's behavior is determined much more by social conventions and the expectations of their community (in addition to pragmatic self-interest) than it is by logical reasoning. I'll risk being the preachy vegetarian by discussing people's attitudes towards eating meat. Most people sincerely believe that cruelty to animals is wrong, and also that factory farming (if not all killing) is cruel. Yet they eat meat. I even know some people who started eating meat again after being ethical vegetarians. Did they change their minds about whether or not harming animals is bad? No. If pressed, they feel guilty but they don't like to talk about it. The reason they're eating meat is because it's convenient and almost everyone expects them to, not because they reasoned from first principles. Likewise with religion - if no one else is giving everything away to the poor and everyone will think you're crazy if you do rather than praising you, you're not going to give everything away to the poor even if it would make sense to do so given what you believe.

                                      Edit: Kidney donation is another example. I met a woman once who donated a kidney to a friend of her mother's. This person wasn't someone particularly dear to her, but she found out that he needed a kidney to live and she gave him hers. I think that what she did is commendable, but I still have both my kidneys. This is despite the fact that I sincerely believe that if, for example, I saw a drowning child then I would risk my life to save him. People would think I was a hero if I saved the child, or that I was a coward if I didn't try. Meanwhile almost everyone I know would think I went crazy if I donated a kidney to a stranger. My relatives would be extremely worried, and they would try to talk me out of it. I'm not going to do something difficult, painful, and (to an extent) dangerous when everyone I know would disapprove, even if in principle I think risking my life to save another's is a good thing to do.

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                                        I think people's behavior is determined much more by social conventions and the expectations of their community (in addition to pragmatic self-interest) than it is by logical reasoning. I'll risk being the preachy vegetarian by discussing people's attitudes towards eating meat. Most people sincerely believe that cruelty to animals is wrong, and also that factory farming (if not all killing) is cruel. Yet they eat meat. I even know some people who started eating meat again after being ethical vegetarians. Did they change their minds about whether or not harming animals is bad? No. If pressed, they feel guilty but they don't like to talk about it. The reason they're eating meat is because it's convenient and almost everyone expects them to, not because they reasoned from first principles. Likewise with religion - if no one else is giving everything away to the poor and everyone will think you're crazy if you do rather than praising you, you're not going to give everything away to the poor even if it would make sense to do so given what you believe.

                                        Edit: Kidney donation is another example. I met a woman once who donated a kidney to a friend of her mother's. This person wasn't someone particularly dear to her, but she found out that he needed a kidney to live and she gave him hers. I think that what she did is commendable, but I still have both my kidneys. This is despite the fact that I sincerely believe that if, for example, I saw a drowning child then I would risk my life to save him. People would think I was a hero if I saved the child, or that I was a coward if I didn't try. Meanwhile almost everyone I know would think I went crazy if I donated a kidney to a stranger. My relatives would be extremely worried, and they would try to talk me out of it. I'm not going to do something difficult, painful, and (to an extent) dangerous when everyone I know would disapprove, even if in principle I think risking my life to save another's is a good thing to do.

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                                        #75

                                        I think your ideas here go into the right direction, but the confusing part for me is that many of the christians I know are so far below what you'd expect from a christian in these parts (which is already very little) - it's not that they don't give everything away to the poor, they're doing (as far as I can tell) nothing - they don't pray, they don't go to church, and they don't adhere to any of what the bible says they should do beyond maybe basic Golden Rule stuff. And it's not even like most families would make a big deal out of it if you left the faith or even became fully atheist. Most do pay the church tax, though, which is about 1% of your gross income.

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                                        • F [email protected]

                                          Title. Interested to see the response from different religions

                                          Edit: Stating your religion would be appreciated. Lack of religion counts for the purpose of this question. Also let's not downvote people for differing religions, all voices are welcome here. If no; why?

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                                          I am strongly atheist, and I don't think I could ever feel like they were equal in intelligence, and respect someone who believes in total nonsense.

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