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    No.

    I just got insta permabanned from world news @ quokka au for saying that sexual orientation is based on sex not gender, is innate, and can’t be changed. You know……scientific facts. People are now claiming that being gay is a choice that you can just opt out of.

    We’ve gone full circle to conversion camps and “pray the gay away” being believed to be effective. Insane.

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      No.

      I just got insta permabanned from world news @ quokka au for saying that sexual orientation is based on sex not gender, is innate, and can’t be changed. You know……scientific facts. People are now claiming that being gay is a choice that you can just opt out of.

      We’ve gone full circle to conversion camps and “pray the gay away” being believed to be effective. Insane.

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      He got banned on ignorance and intolerance.

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        He got banned on ignorance and intolerance.

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        Pointing out that LGB being defined as same sex attraction while TQ+ is based on gender identity is “ignorance and intolerance” now?

        People were saying that being gay has nothing to do with sex now, only gender lol.

        Let me ask you - do you think that sexual orientation is innate or do you think it’s just a preference that you can control and change at will?

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          Pointing out that LGB being defined as same sex attraction while TQ+ is based on gender identity is “ignorance and intolerance” now?

          People were saying that being gay has nothing to do with sex now, only gender lol.

          Let me ask you - do you think that sexual orientation is innate or do you think it’s just a preference that you can control and change at will?

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          Not at will, no. But the sex/gender attraction thing isn't accurate.

          People who consider themselves straight may still feel the same level of attraction toward trans people of their preferred gender. In my limited understanding, this is based on a combination of presentation, hormones and pheromones.

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            Not at will, no. But the sex/gender attraction thing isn't accurate.

            People who consider themselves straight may still feel the same level of attraction toward trans people of their preferred gender. In my limited understanding, this is based on a combination of presentation, hormones and pheromones.

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            Sexual attraction isn’t based on gender, it’s based on sex. LGB are literally defined as same sex attraction.

            A straight male is not going to be sexually attracted to a trans woman.

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              Sexual attraction isn’t based on gender, it’s based on sex. LGB are literally defined as same sex attraction.

              A straight male is not going to be sexually attracted to a trans woman.

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              Shit, we should just stop observing and testing because the dictionary has us covered.

              Aside from personal anecdotes, like my trans aunt marrying a straight man, and trans friends dating self-identified straight, or gay people who have never had a relationship or attraction outside their preferred gender—there have been studies on the subject.

              Not many, admittedly, since it's a new area of research. Politics, presentation, and genitals are factors (attraction to pre-op vs post-op trans people differs,) but there's plenty of anecdotal evidence, articles and surveys that have been published if you searched for "straight attraction to trans identities."

              I didn't post a link because none are as specific and comprehensive as the volume of information from a search. The Wikipedia article by that title has a short list of resources as well.

              And why not challenge yourself to consider alternatives to your views? Learn more about sex, attraction and gender identity because it's interesting? Unless there are specific reasons you don't want to think straight men could be attracted to trans women.

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