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AGI is not in reach.

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    That’s not my argument at all. I never said an algorithm is AI just because it has many steps. The key difference isn’t complexity - it’s the nature of what the algorithm does. A Tic-Tac-Toe AI can be extremely simple yet still counts as AI where as something like a game physics engine is extremely complex yet it doesn't simulate intelligence, just physics. Bubble sort follows a fixed sequence with no decision-making. A chess engine, on the other hand, evaluates different moves, predicts outcomes, and optimizes decisions based on a strategy. That’s not just ‘many steps’ - it’s a process of selecting the best action based on the current situation. If you think my argument is about complexity rather than decision-making, you’ve misunderstood my point.

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    If the decision making in the game is based on a deterministic formula, then it is no different than the decision of selecing which two items in the container to compare next.

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      Why is AGI not in reach? What insight do you have on the matter than you can so confidently make an absolute statement like that?

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      Experts in the field.

      https://open.spotify.com/episode/4IoS9rBDq7GLwsgccKqCti?si=cQn1SmoJRaSb-9a-6doaBQ

      I also work in the industry. In particular I work in data analytics consulting. It’s all hype to sell consulting hours and compute.

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        Experts in the field.

        https://open.spotify.com/episode/4IoS9rBDq7GLwsgccKqCti?si=cQn1SmoJRaSb-9a-6doaBQ

        I also work in the industry. In particular I work in data analytics consulting. It’s all hype to sell consulting hours and compute.

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        Then please explain your reasoning. Statements alone are meaningless if you're unable to back them up explanations.

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        • B [email protected]

          LLM's can now generate answers. Watch this:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPf5GCQBNn4&t=450s

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          They make shit up fucking constantly. If I have to google if the answer I was given was right I might as well cut out the middle man and just google it myself. If I can't understand it at that point maybe ask the LLM to rephrase the answer.

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            They make shit up fucking constantly. If I have to google if the answer I was given was right I might as well cut out the middle man and just google it myself. If I can't understand it at that point maybe ask the LLM to rephrase the answer.

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            You missed the part where deep seek uses a separate inference engine to take the LLM output and reason through it to see if it makes sense.

            No it's not perfect. But it isn't just predicting text like how AI was a couple of years ago.

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