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When rich people can edit their kids DNA won't that just lock everyone else out and create a new class?

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  • I [email protected]

    Not just education, but what really matters- social connections. The wealthy only want to socialize with other wealthy people, so when their kids begin entering adulthood they’ll give them a leg up. Wealthy people control access to many high-paying jobs; the classic example is wall st, where unless you’re a rocket scientist your daddy has to know someone to get an internship.

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    Yes. People fight for the $50K to $100K jobs, missing the boat on the $250K jobs.

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    • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

      "Fittest" never meant "best", just "most capable of effective adaptation", FWIW.

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      Dinosaurs would have evolved into more exotic forms if they hadn't been wiped out by an asteroid

      We might unfortunately end ourselves through our own actions in a similar way

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      • Y [email protected]

        CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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        In Echopraxia, the transhuman pilot repeatedly calls the old guy a "roach".

        “I’ve told you before, Daniel: roach isn’t an insult. We’re the ones still standing after the mammals build their nukes, we’re the ones with the stripped-down OS’s so damned simple they work under almost any circumstances. We’re the goddamned Kalashnikovs of thinking meat.”

        ― Peter Watts, Echopraxia

        And one of my favorite Heinlein quotes:

        “A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.”

        ― Robert A. Heinlein

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        • Y [email protected]

          I'll be dead, humanity is fucked as i see it but things could change i guess.

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          Humanity has been fucked many times before. Humans migrated out of Africa TWICE. We have been nearly wiped out several times. Maybe this will be the last time. Maybe Humans will migrate out of Africa a third time....

          Reference provided, but not read.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_human_migrations

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          • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

            "Fittest" never meant "best", just "most capable of effective adaptation", FWIW.

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            "Luck" meaning, having a lucky mutation that's beneficial to reproducing in the current ecosystem.

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            • S [email protected]

              In Echopraxia, the transhuman pilot repeatedly calls the old guy a "roach".

              “I’ve told you before, Daniel: roach isn’t an insult. We’re the ones still standing after the mammals build their nukes, we’re the ones with the stripped-down OS’s so damned simple they work under almost any circumstances. We’re the goddamned Kalashnikovs of thinking meat.”

              ― Peter Watts, Echopraxia

              And one of my favorite Heinlein quotes:

              “A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.”

              ― Robert A. Heinlein

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              Ah once again i wish i read books.. I think if I was to pick up a book it would be the novels behind the show The Expanse. I feel like they left a lot out of the show that was in the books.

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                "Luck" meaning, having a lucky mutation that's beneficial to reproducing in the current ecosystem.

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                Luck as in 'lucky enough to have your entire species wiped out by a single unforeseen catastrophic event or climatic change'

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                • Y [email protected]

                  You have played CK3?

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                  Nope, no idea what that acronym means.

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                  • vanth@reddthat.comV [email protected]

                    Nope, no idea what that acronym means.

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                    Its a game called Crusader Kings 3. its about picking traits for offspring for your successors but so much more than that.

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                    • burgerbaron@piefed.socialB [email protected]

                      Eh. Climate Change is gonna ruin those plans anyways.

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                      Or nuclear war or the ozone layer.

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                      • Y [email protected]

                        Ah once again i wish i read books.. I think if I was to pick up a book it would be the novels behind the show The Expanse. I feel like they left a lot out of the show that was in the books.

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                        Definitely worth the read. The show was a great adaptation with some necessary compromises for a TV adaptation, but also, you have 3 (4) more books beyond season 6.

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                        • Y [email protected]

                          Its the ones that adapt the fastest

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                          I read that as "It's the ones that adapt the fascist" 😞

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                          • hurlingdurling@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                            Same for H. G. Wells- The Time Machine book in the part where the traveler meets the Morlocks and the Eloi.

                            Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Machine

                            EDIT: Got my authors mixed up, it wasn't Jules Verne.

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                            H. G. Wells wrote The Time Machine, not Verne.

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                            • Y [email protected]

                              CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                              We need to make CRISPR as easy as 3D printing. Open source genetic modification.

                              Sure, we'll get lunatics making doomsday viruses in their basement, but also other lunatics designing vaccines for them you can make with your own desktop bioreactor.

                              More importantly, we'll also get people turning themselves into catgirls.

                              Screw cyberpunk; biopunk's where it's at.

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                              • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

                                Spoilers!

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                                I HAVE SPOILED NOTHING.

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                                • R [email protected]

                                  Definitely worth the read. The show was a great adaptation with some necessary compromises for a TV adaptation, but also, you have 3 (4) more books beyond season 6.

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                                  Aw man really? If there is an incentive to read that's it.

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                                  • I [email protected]

                                    They already have. The few very rich friends I have (money is no object people) are all great at pretending to have empathy but their actions belie them

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                                    Yep, they'll act like they care, think that they care, but put the mildest of obstacles in front of them and they'll throw a poor person into a meat grinder to avoid it. People who grew up with money have no character or idea how to weather any kind of hardship

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                                    • L [email protected]

                                      We need to make CRISPR as easy as 3D printing. Open source genetic modification.

                                      Sure, we'll get lunatics making doomsday viruses in their basement, but also other lunatics designing vaccines for them you can make with your own desktop bioreactor.

                                      More importantly, we'll also get people turning themselves into catgirls.

                                      Screw cyberpunk; biopunk's where it's at.

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                                      Naw I think its wetware.

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                                      • Y [email protected]

                                        CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                        Shhh!

                                        You're not supposed to say the quiet part out loud!

                                        Just keep pretending our societies are equitable.

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                                        • Y [email protected]

                                          I dont think people will live forever. 300 years yea but not forever. Unless you are talking about replacing everything that fails with something new, then how much of you is the original person?

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                                          Whether we can or not, the point was what people might do if.

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