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When rich people can edit their kids DNA won't that just lock everyone else out and create a new class?

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    CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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    Are you just now discovering that eugenics is bad?

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      CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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      It's a new class of DARWIN humans, since such manipulated beings usually have shorter life expectation.

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        Are you just now discovering that eugenics is bad?

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        The tech in itself isn't inherently bad, it could solve a lot of issues for a lot of people. The problem is in equal access.

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          H. G. Wells wrote The Time Machine, not Verne.

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          My bad, dunno how I could confuse my authors

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            The tech in itself isn't inherently bad, it could solve a lot of issues for a lot of people. The problem is in equal access.

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            Which is generally the problem with eugenics. No one is arguing that avoiding downs syndrome is a bad thing.

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              CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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              I think we all end up like the Asgards from SG-1 without the ability to transfer our consciousness to a new body.

              Extinct via hubris. Obviously this assumes we do something about runaway global heating.

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              • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                We don't have back-alley gene editors yet 🤷‍♂️

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                DM me, I'll figure it out.

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                • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL [email protected]

                  Yeah it’s a cool movie but the message of systemic disadvantages don’t matter if you try hard enough is a little questionable at best.

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                  I mean... It was showing the extreme lengths he had to go through, the risks he has to take, just to compete for the same opportunities.

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                    Red rising

                    I envy you people who read books. I only read maybe 5 books in my adult life. Never liked reading.

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                    Have you tried different formats? Some like physical books best, others prefer e-readers, some swear by audiobooks...?

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                    • underpantsweevil@lemmy.worldU [email protected]

                      Okay, but the moral of the story was that "superior" people weren't actually superior. They were just racist.

                      The protagonist outwits and outperforms them all.

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                      In some cases there were absolute superior though. Like the pianist with 12 fingers.

                      The actual moral of the story was that it's not worth it. Being a bit better at some random shit like swimming, playing piano or piloting a rocket is not good enough to sacrifice the rest.

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                        gattaca, and the cloning show with arnold in

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                        "Your child will still be yours. Simply the best of you."

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                        • Y [email protected]

                          CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                          This already happens with social factors that affect physical development like access to nutrition and a permanent place to live.

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                            CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                            This has been a thing for at least a few years. Luckily last I checked (pre pandemic) it hasn't taken off bc

                            1. Eugenics reminds people of Nazis and is bad
                            2. Genetic diversity might be the only thing that saves us in another pandemic. Kind of like how strains of bananas all go extinct at once if they're genetic clones.

                            So probably too dangerous to actually take off any time soon. Iirc a Chinese scientist tried it and got sent to jail, seems to be a pretty universal thing

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                            • Y [email protected]

                              CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                              The will find a way to be even more inbred than they already are

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                                CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                This happens in a smaller way with access to prenatal testing and abortions. Parents with access to those things are at least able to detect and avoid the more debilitating birth defect, while parents without access are more likely to have a child with a severe birth defect. If they're already struggling materially, that can sometimes guarantee that both the parents and child will have no upward mobility.

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                                  This has been a thing for at least a few years. Luckily last I checked (pre pandemic) it hasn't taken off bc

                                  1. Eugenics reminds people of Nazis and is bad
                                  2. Genetic diversity might be the only thing that saves us in another pandemic. Kind of like how strains of bananas all go extinct at once if they're genetic clones.

                                  So probably too dangerous to actually take off any time soon. Iirc a Chinese scientist tried it and got sent to jail, seems to be a pretty universal thing

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                                  I wonder how that kid is doing. I would love to hear an update. It was bad and all but I am still curious.

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                                  • hurlingdurling@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                                    My bad, dunno how I could confuse my authors

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                                    Both are very early science fiction pioneers, I can see how they could get mixed up. 🤷‍♂️

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                                    • Y [email protected]

                                      CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                      They don't need genetic engineering to have advantage over everyone else tbf.

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                                      • Y [email protected]

                                        CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                        They have bigger problems

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                                          CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                          The questions reminds me of Brave New World.

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