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When rich people can edit their kids DNA won't that just lock everyone else out and create a new class?

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    CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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    Beggars in Spain by Nancy Kress. A scifi that deals with the creation of classes based on whether you can afford to buy your children good genes. Politicians are charismatic, ruthless and good looking, because they are bred for politics.
    In this world people without genemods are sorta out of luck, without any of the tools or enhancements rich genemod people have.

    Or, check out GATTACA, good movie.

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    • libertylizard@slrpnk.netL [email protected]

      Yeah it’s a cool movie but the message of systemic disadvantages don’t matter if you try hard enough is a little questionable at best.

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      At the end it came down to him going for the launch despite knowing he'd likely get caught and the doctor letting him through despite knowing who he is, because his son was also not engineered, I think the message was people of the under class coming together to fight the system rather than just working hard

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        Beggars in Spain by Nancy Kress. A scifi that deals with the creation of classes based on whether you can afford to buy your children good genes. Politicians are charismatic, ruthless and good looking, because they are bred for politics.
        In this world people without genemods are sorta out of luck, without any of the tools or enhancements rich genemod people have.

        Or, check out GATTACA, good movie.

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        I'm compelled to mention every time GATTACA is mentioned, that the title is made up of the amino acids* that comprise our DNA: A,T,C,G

        *nucleic acids

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          Ooor they'll turn their kids into "pugs" that are ultra-cute and good at passing certain tests but otherwise useless and unhealthy.

          I'd definitely prefer we didn't go down that path, but do consider the endpoint might be more The Time Traveler than Gattaca, because rich people aren't exempt from being dumb.

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          I do wish the ultra wealthy would just become morlocks and go underground forever.

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            I do wish the ultra wealthy would just become morlocks and go underground forever.

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            Hate to tell you but the morlocks weren't the rich in that story.

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              That's a worry, but also there's still a lot of stuff we don't understand about genetics, and a bunch of grifters who'll fleece the super wealthy

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              That’s what I think will maybe even the playing field; while it’s expensive it’s not well understood; a few mistakes and they’ll be more cautious. By the time it becomes more popular again it’ll be cheap. Optimistic thought at least.

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                I do wish the ultra wealthy would just become morlocks and go underground forever.

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                The wealthy became the Eloi in that story, haha. You're supposed to want to eat them.

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                • Y [email protected]

                  CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                  That's already happened. It happened a long time ago.

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                    Hate to tell you but the morlocks weren't the rich in that story.

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                    It's been a while since I read it, and now I'm ashamed because it's one of my favorite books 😂

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                      The wealthy became the Eloi in that story, haha. You're supposed to want to eat them.

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                      You're right, huge brain fart.... I still wish they would all leave us alone forever, analogy or not

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                        They might not need financial advantage, but they could surely do things to their physicality (birthing tall children), or to their anatomy (no more lactose intolerance).

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                        I did mean as in physical advantage.

                        Eat nutritious food and go to the schools with best learning conditions and never stress about anything from birth and you too can be an athletic engineer with 90+ years life-expectancy.

                        Tho yeah allergies and all would still depend.

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                          CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                          As others have said, go see Gattaca. It's completely about this topic and very interesting.

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                            I'm compelled to mention every time GATTACA is mentioned, that the title is made up of the amino acids* that comprise our DNA: A,T,C,G

                            *nucleic acids

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                            You know I never noticed that but that's a nice subtle reference.

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                              As others have said, go see Gattaca. It's completely about this topic and very interesting.

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                              Awesome movie.

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                                Ooor they'll turn their kids into "pugs" that are ultra-cute and good at passing certain tests but otherwise useless and unhealthy.

                                I'd definitely prefer we didn't go down that path, but do consider the endpoint might be more The Time Traveler than Gattaca, because rich people aren't exempt from being dumb.

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                                If the 'rich' are anything about choosing genes as they have been about choosing plastic surgery, we know that most of them will make a complete hack of it and their offspring will suffer for it.

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                                • Y [email protected]

                                  CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                  Yeah it will be new class of morons that will buy out all the water and energy to feed their shiny computers so you can live in dark and starve to death.

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                                    I'm compelled to mention every time GATTACA is mentioned, that the title is made up of the amino acids* that comprise our DNA: A,T,C,G

                                    *nucleic acids

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                                    I've never studied anything about genetics or DNA, but I didn't know that until the first time I showed my then girlfriend (now wife). Once the general premise became clear, she said something like "I should have guessed, since the title is made with A,T,C,G."

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                                      CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                      Despite being nearly 100 years old, Brave New World (1931), written by Aldous Huxley, covers the idea of class-based genetic engineering and genetics based class definition, as one of its core themes.

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                                      • Y [email protected]

                                        CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                        This is the theme of the Divergent series.

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                                        • Y [email protected]

                                          CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                          Nature takes its course.

                                          Remember the rich tried to keep their genes separate from the masses by inbreeding. Look at where that got them.

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