When rich people can edit their kids DNA won't that just lock everyone else out and create a new class?
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:::An incredibly powerful scene. I still think about it regularly when thinking about human limitations.
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Yeah it’s a cool movie but the message of systemic disadvantages don’t matter if you try hard enough is a little questionable at best.
I don't think that was the message at all.
The end message is that the doctor knew all along, and was helping him from the beginning. It didn't matter how much work he put in, how hard he tried. How much he lied or cheated or "overcame his limitation", at the end of the day he would have never succeeded without help from a fellow human.
Doing it all himself had started to make him prideful to some degree. And realizing that, in the background, he didn't do it all himself was a last kick of humility to (ironically) ground the character before he leaves the ground forever.
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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?
We're still overdue for a eugenics war and WW3 before Star Trek timeline.
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I don't think that was the message at all.
The end message is that the doctor knew all along, and was helping him from the beginning. It didn't matter how much work he put in, how hard he tried. How much he lied or cheated or "overcame his limitation", at the end of the day he would have never succeeded without help from a fellow human.
Doing it all himself had started to make him prideful to some degree. And realizing that, in the background, he didn't do it all himself was a last kick of humility to (ironically) ground the character before he leaves the ground forever.
wrote last edited by [email protected]He knew all along? I guess I didn’t pick up on that. I thought it was just at the very end.
I can see how that might change the message of the film somewhat.
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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?
Don't worry. The poor will just become extinct like the other hominids that are no longer with us.
It shouldn't be anything too bad.
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Nature takes its course.
Remember the rich tried to keep their genes separate from the masses by inbreeding. Look at where that got them.
That won't work anymore if they can just edit their genes
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Nature takes its course.
Remember the rich tried to keep their genes separate from the masses by inbreeding. Look at where that got them.
Ah the Habsburgs... Not so much a family tree as a family broom handle.
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Don't worry. The poor will just become extinct like the other hominids that are no longer with us.
It shouldn't be anything too bad.
Nothing of value was lost /s
But seriously, what a fucking bleak endgame
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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?
We're getting the movie Gattaca IRL before Half-Life 3 and GTA 6 smdh
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He knew all along? I guess I didn’t pick up on that. I thought it was just at the very end.
I can see how that might change the message of the film somewhat.
It's not expressly said. But that's my take on it from a few different clues. For starters, he wasnt' surprised by the invalid reading. Also the story that he tells about his son not being "all that was promised" came early in the film, with the doctor saying "who knows what he can achieve" like a wink or a nudge almost.
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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?
Don't worry, they're absolutely stupid enough to practice CRISPR to the point where their kids are inbreeding within a generation because their CRISPR fixed genetics made them all too biologically similar to create effectively genetically diverse offspring.
Techno fuedalism is still fuedalism. So that means idiots all at the top.
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Nothing of value was lost /s
But seriously, what a fucking bleak endgame
Nothing lasts forever. Homo sapiens was bound to be replaced by another hominid at some point.
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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?
Gattaca offered the hopeful promise of profit maximization through mass production of genetic engineering, though it's unclear if government subsidies helped with the profit maximization.
Time will certainly create political pressure to make the bestest babies for the races who deserve the bestest babies. Maybe that does mean no medicaid coverage.
The strongest case for only ultra rich having access, is that it's just a status symbol. AI and robotics will do all the work, so why be smart or fit? How smart do you need to be to just support fascist genocide? Being smart is only a path to considering human needs above fascist supremacist needs as a path to sustainability, with sustainability considered of value. Stupidity far more useful to near term "theft profitability with no consequences" of fascism.
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Yes, we will end up with Eloi and Morlocs
For those not yet genetically engineered to have awareness of literature...
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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?
Clicked the link to see how many references to Gattaca there would be. Was not disappointed
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We're getting the movie Gattaca IRL before Half-Life 3 and GTA 6 smdh
everytime i see "smdh" i think "shake my dick hard" for some reason.
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Nothing lasts forever. Homo sapiens was bound to be replaced by another hominid at some point.
"homo techno" according to grymes, lmao.
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Ah the Habsburgs... Not so much a family tree as a family broom handle.
a family wreath
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That won't work anymore if they can just edit their genes
But let's look at anything that's had their genes edited, bananas for example. They can't breed and need to be cloned. One single disease will wipe out that genetically modified banana into extinction.
Same goes for humans. You edit something that's not tried and tested against the very environment that you live in, you're instantly vulnerable. Viruses and bacterium evolve much more quickly than we do and you just can't edit genes fast enough to account for that.
So, on the bright side, the rich who will edit their genes to favour human traits will ultimately suffer the consequences of nature. Was brilliantly covered in War of the Worlds, the novel.
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But let's look at anything that's had their genes edited, bananas for example. They can't breed and need to be cloned. One single disease will wipe out that genetically modified banana into extinction.
Same goes for humans. You edit something that's not tried and tested against the very environment that you live in, you're instantly vulnerable. Viruses and bacterium evolve much more quickly than we do and you just can't edit genes fast enough to account for that.
So, on the bright side, the rich who will edit their genes to favour human traits will ultimately suffer the consequences of nature. Was brilliantly covered in War of the Worlds, the novel.
Just keep editing until you beat nature.
We cannot keep depending on that chaos bitch.
