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When rich people can edit their kids DNA won't that just lock everyone else out and create a new class?

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    CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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    Gattaca offered the hopeful promise of profit maximization through mass production of genetic engineering, though it's unclear if government subsidies helped with the profit maximization.

    Time will certainly create political pressure to make the bestest babies for the races who deserve the bestest babies. Maybe that does mean no medicaid coverage.

    The strongest case for only ultra rich having access, is that it's just a status symbol. AI and robotics will do all the work, so why be smart or fit? How smart do you need to be to just support fascist genocide? Being smart is only a path to considering human needs above fascist supremacist needs as a path to sustainability, with sustainability considered of value. Stupidity far more useful to near term "theft profitability with no consequences" of fascism.

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      Yes, we will end up with Eloi and Morlocs

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      For those not yet genetically engineered to have awareness of literature...

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eloi

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      • Y [email protected]

        CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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        Clicked the link to see how many references to Gattaca there would be. Was not disappointed

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          We're getting the movie Gattaca IRL before Half-Life 3 and GTA 6 smdh

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          everytime i see "smdh" i think "shake my dick hard" for some reason.

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          • H [email protected]

            Nothing lasts forever. Homo sapiens was bound to be replaced by another hominid at some point.

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            "homo techno" according to grymes, lmao.

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            • L [email protected]

              Ah the Habsburgs... Not so much a family tree as a family broom handle.

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              a family wreath

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                That won't work anymore if they can just edit their genes

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                But let's look at anything that's had their genes edited, bananas for example. They can't breed and need to be cloned. One single disease will wipe out that genetically modified banana into extinction.

                Same goes for humans. You edit something that's not tried and tested against the very environment that you live in, you're instantly vulnerable. Viruses and bacterium evolve much more quickly than we do and you just can't edit genes fast enough to account for that.

                So, on the bright side, the rich who will edit their genes to favour human traits will ultimately suffer the consequences of nature. Was brilliantly covered in War of the Worlds, the novel.

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                  But let's look at anything that's had their genes edited, bananas for example. They can't breed and need to be cloned. One single disease will wipe out that genetically modified banana into extinction.

                  Same goes for humans. You edit something that's not tried and tested against the very environment that you live in, you're instantly vulnerable. Viruses and bacterium evolve much more quickly than we do and you just can't edit genes fast enough to account for that.

                  So, on the bright side, the rich who will edit their genes to favour human traits will ultimately suffer the consequences of nature. Was brilliantly covered in War of the Worlds, the novel.

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                  Just keep editing until you beat nature.

                  We cannot keep depending on that chaos bitch.

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                  • Y [email protected]

                    CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                    Unless genetic engineering has always been accessible to the ruling class and we cant comprehend the true mechanisms that keep us oppressed.

                    Imagine, its completely feasible to use a space craft or time dilation to travel forward in time. People could exsist on an entire plane of existence within our plane of existence.

                    Global warming?

                    No big deal, jump forward a few millennia and see how things developed. Still unliveable? Jump forward again.

                    Sure its risky and hard to imagine but its not impossible.

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                    • Y [email protected]

                      CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                      No, your assumption is that there is an ideal DNA code when there isn't. They will still just be people like everyone else.

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                      • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                        No, your assumption is that there is an ideal DNA code when there isn't. They will still just be people like everyone else.

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                        Want to alsonadd (because for some reason I can no longer edit my own comments on any instance) that the wealthy have been stealing the poor's DNA for millenia and they still look like, well, Mark Davis.

                        That's why they love gold diggers, love strippers, athletes (see Serena Williams who is married to a billionare), actresses, etc - they've BEEN trying to do this the whole time.

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                          We're getting the movie Gattaca IRL before Half-Life 3 and GTA 6 smdh

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                          Libertarians not even building Rapture yet and they're going full Gattaca? How gauche.

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                          • eightbitblood@lemmy.worldE [email protected]

                            Don't worry, they're absolutely stupid enough to practice CRISPR to the point where their kids are inbreeding within a generation because their CRISPR fixed genetics made them all too biologically similar to create effectively genetically diverse offspring.

                            Techno fuedalism is still fuedalism. So that means idiots all at the top.

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                            Wonder what the new Hapsburg chin will be.

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                            • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                              No, your assumption is that there is an ideal DNA code when there isn't. They will still just be people like everyone else.

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                              Style and fashion will narrow down the field.

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                              • lustyargonianmana@lemmy.worldL [email protected]

                                No, your assumption is that there is an ideal DNA code when there isn't. They will still just be people like everyone else.

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                                If anything eventually it'll be like gardening seeds. Where yeah, there's a lot of hybrid seeds that might be good for certain traits, but what a bunch of gardeners really want are heirloom varieties that are more naturally-selected and therefore more reliable over multiple generations.

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                                  Just keep editing until you beat nature.

                                  We cannot keep depending on that chaos bitch.

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                                  Er... Not possible.

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                                    If anything eventually it'll be like gardening seeds. Where yeah, there's a lot of hybrid seeds that might be good for certain traits, but what a bunch of gardeners really want are heirloom varieties that are more naturally-selected and therefore more reliable over multiple generations.

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                                    No, not really that either. That is also advocating for eugenics.

                                    We know there are diseases like cystic fibrosis that would benefit from gene editing. That is not an issue to treat.

                                    It's just that humans need genetic variety or we will go the route of the Gros Michel banana when a disease hits. There are people immune to HIV for instance - that is good for them for some things, but it is likely that means they have other trade offs for this trait. Gene editing everyone to have it could theoretically mean a different disease like giardia or cholera or whatever could be easier to contract and more deadly.

                                    The advantage of humans is adaptability. We need genetic variety to be adaptable. We cannot all be the same. There is no perfect genetic code or perfect "Adam DNA," (conservatives believe there is an original DNA code that God gave Adam and if they can access it, they will live hundreds of years like the Bible said people did). They think this because they don't believe in evolution.

                                    Recommend the book "Half Earth" by E.O. Wilson to better understand why genetic diversity is important. It isn't long at all.

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                                      Er... Not possible.

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                                      Not with that attitude

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                                        everytime i see "smdh" i think "shake my dick hard" for some reason.

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                                        Can't unsee now, thanks

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