When rich people can edit their kids DNA won't that just lock everyone else out and create a new class?
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Here’s a scarier thought, if they can fine tune this shit enough they’ll probably just clone themselves and pull a ship of Theseus on themselves. Removing the only remaining equalizer between them and the rest of humanity.
The rich fucks at the top want to become gods. They won’t call it that but that’s the end game for the ones with the most hand on the wheel.
I'll be dead, humanity is fucked as i see it but things could change i guess.
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Here’s a scarier thought, if they can fine tune this shit enough they’ll probably just clone themselves and pull a ship of Theseus on themselves. Removing the only remaining equalizer between them and the rest of humanity.
The rich fucks at the top want to become gods. They won’t call it that but that’s the end game for the ones with the most hand on the wheel.
That is just having heirs with more steps.
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The plot of the film Gattaca explores this, the idea of what society looks like when there's a class of genetically engineered, "superior" people, vs. the naturally born, "inferior" class.
Is that the movie about (sorry for the bad synopsis) Where the guy vacuums his work desk because he wants to go to space?
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I really can't imagine what China is doing..
...did you respond to the wrong comment?
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...did you respond to the wrong comment?
I mean with CRISPR..
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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?
My answer is this: sooner than I'd like, it will be possible to create custom nano 'devices'. They won't call it what it is, but the gist will be that we can manufacture cellular level machines that target incredibly specific genes as well as strands and sequences of very specific variations and mutations of the human genome.
yes, always expect the 'wealthy' to continue to use the power of their birthright to further elevate themselves above the people 'below' them.
At the same time, they'll probably end up leaving tell tale changes in their genetic code that can/will be targeted.
The ultimate irony is that without genetic changes, there is no evolution.
The rich and powerful will homogenize themselves into obsolescence
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Yes.
But it’s already here. Education is already doing what you’re fearing. Rich people tend to have access to better education and thus having access to better salaries, positions, etc.
wrote last edited by [email protected]Yep. Learned behavior is where human evolution actually happens; it's our specialization, our niche as big brained, highly social, linguistic apes. Don't gotta wait for random genetic changes that happen to encode useful new instincts. We just learn them from one another. Significantly speedier.
If rich people go mucking about with their genomes, it's much more likely to backfire in unforeseen ways than to actually instill any sort of advantage. Genes are a messy, messy, messy means of encoding things.
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My answer is this: sooner than I'd like, it will be possible to create custom nano 'devices'. They won't call it what it is, but the gist will be that we can manufacture cellular level machines that target incredibly specific genes as well as strands and sequences of very specific variations and mutations of the human genome.
yes, always expect the 'wealthy' to continue to use the power of their birthright to further elevate themselves above the people 'below' them.
At the same time, they'll probably end up leaving tell tale changes in their genetic code that can/will be targeted.
The ultimate irony is that without genetic changes, there is no evolution.
The rich and powerful will homogenize themselves into obsolescence
Nano devices will be called medication. explain the tale tale changes in thier genetic code that will be targeted.
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I really can't imagine what China is doing..
Trump is directly undermining national safety by abandoning higher education, college visas for foreigners, scientific studies etc.
15 years ago we knew exactly what China was doing. Now? Good luck
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That is just having heirs with more steps.
and an even greater dependency on industrial processes
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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?
It’ll be even worse when they gene edit other people to be their slaves and/or personal armies.
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It’ll be even worse when they gene edit other people to be their slaves and/or personal armies.
That will apply in certain countries.
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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?
wrote last edited by [email protected]You already mentioned science fiction, and therein lies your answer. Many of the super rich already think of themselves as better than human or more deserving than others. This new tech will only reinforce the idea because, obviously, only the wealthy will have broad access to it.
What you've brought up is a willful choice in future design. And that's "design" as in both the genetic build of their future children, as well as the redesigned social structure that will be laid out before them.
The idea is, or very soon will be, to make a clear and undeniable ruling class. The wanna-be god kings are already shoring-up forces and hedging their bets as we live and breath. Pharonic rule 2.0 might be just around the corner, folks.
Who was it that said "fear not of man, for all men must die"? Eh. It doesn't really matter who said it, so much as what it means. Anyone wanting to see to it that these fucks dont get their way, I hope will make sure to remember the meaning of these words. A time may come in which that meaning becomes the most vital of tools in undoing some of the greater evils of this world. No gods. No kings.
None of this is advice. I am not a lawyer. I am not an expert in any field. Etc
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Trump is directly undermining national safety by abandoning higher education, college visas for foreigners, scientific studies etc.
15 years ago we knew exactly what China was doing. Now? Good luck
wrote last edited by [email protected]He is in many many ways. Thats what i mean with China.
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I mean with CRISPR..
Chinese researchers publish in the same international journals everyone does, I don't think they are using CRISPR any differently than anyone this side of the pacific is.
The verdict said the three defendants had not obtained qualification as doctors, pursued fame and profits, deliberately violated Chinese regulations on scientific research, and crossed an ethical line in both scientific research and medicine, according to Xinhua. It also said they had fabricated ethical review documents.
It's illegal.
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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?
The rest will argue amongst themselves about why gamma always gets the laurel
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CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?
Can’t wait for them to make their kids super smart and then their kids call them idiots.
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You already mentioned science fiction, and therein lies your answer. Many of the super rich already think of themselves as better than human or more deserving than others. This new tech will only reinforce the idea because, obviously, only the wealthy will have broad access to it.
What you've brought up is a willful choice in future design. And that's "design" as in both the genetic build of their future children, as well as the redesigned social structure that will be laid out before them.
The idea is, or very soon will be, to make a clear and undeniable ruling class. The wanna-be god kings are already shoring-up forces and hedging their bets as we live and breath. Pharonic rule 2.0 might be just around the corner, folks.
Who was it that said "fear not of man, for all men must die"? Eh. It doesn't really matter who said it, so much as what it means. Anyone wanting to see to it that these fucks dont get their way, I hope will make sure to remember the meaning of these words. A time may come in which that meaning becomes the most vital of tools in undoing some of the greater evils of this world. No gods. No kings.
None of this is advice. I am not a lawyer. I am not an expert in any field. Etc
Pharonic rule 2.0? Are you talking like Egypt?
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Chinese researchers publish in the same international journals everyone does, I don't think they are using CRISPR any differently than anyone this side of the pacific is.
The verdict said the three defendants had not obtained qualification as doctors, pursued fame and profits, deliberately violated Chinese regulations on scientific research, and crossed an ethical line in both scientific research and medicine, according to Xinhua. It also said they had fabricated ethical review documents.
It's illegal.
They follow the law?
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Pharonic rule 2.0? Are you talking like Egypt?
The way Egypt was ruled in the distant past, yeah. Not to say it's a 1:1 comparison ofc, but the similarities, I hope, are evident.