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When rich people can edit their kids DNA won't that just lock everyone else out and create a new class?

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    CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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    It’ll be even worse when they gene edit other people to be their slaves and/or personal armies.

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      It’ll be even worse when they gene edit other people to be their slaves and/or personal armies.

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      That will apply in certain countries.

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        CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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        You already mentioned science fiction, and therein lies your answer. Many of the super rich already think of themselves as better than human or more deserving than others. This new tech will only reinforce the idea because, obviously, only the wealthy will have broad access to it.

        What you've brought up is a willful choice in future design. And that's "design" as in both the genetic build of their future children, as well as the redesigned social structure that will be laid out before them.

        The idea is, or very soon will be, to make a clear and undeniable ruling class. The wanna-be god kings are already shoring-up forces and hedging their bets as we live and breath. Pharonic rule 2.0 might be just around the corner, folks.

        Who was it that said "fear not of man, for all men must die"? Eh. It doesn't really matter who said it, so much as what it means. Anyone wanting to see to it that these fucks dont get their way, I hope will make sure to remember the meaning of these words. A time may come in which that meaning becomes the most vital of tools in undoing some of the greater evils of this world. No gods. No kings.

        None of this is advice. I am not a lawyer. I am not an expert in any field. Etc

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          Trump is directly undermining national safety by abandoning higher education, college visas for foreigners, scientific studies etc.

          15 years ago we knew exactly what China was doing. Now? Good luck

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          He is in many many ways. Thats what i mean with China.

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            I mean with CRISPR..

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            Chinese researchers publish in the same international journals everyone does, I don't think they are using CRISPR any differently than anyone this side of the pacific is.

            Plus; https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/chinese-scientist-linked-to-gene-edited-babies-sentenced-to-prison

            The verdict said the three defendants had not obtained qualification as doctors, pursued fame and profits, deliberately violated Chinese regulations on scientific research, and crossed an ethical line in both scientific research and medicine, according to Xinhua. It also said they had fabricated ethical review documents.

            It's illegal.

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            • Y [email protected]

              CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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              The rest will argue amongst themselves about why gamma always gets the laurel

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                CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                Can’t wait for them to make their kids super smart and then their kids call them idiots.

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                  You already mentioned science fiction, and therein lies your answer. Many of the super rich already think of themselves as better than human or more deserving than others. This new tech will only reinforce the idea because, obviously, only the wealthy will have broad access to it.

                  What you've brought up is a willful choice in future design. And that's "design" as in both the genetic build of their future children, as well as the redesigned social structure that will be laid out before them.

                  The idea is, or very soon will be, to make a clear and undeniable ruling class. The wanna-be god kings are already shoring-up forces and hedging their bets as we live and breath. Pharonic rule 2.0 might be just around the corner, folks.

                  Who was it that said "fear not of man, for all men must die"? Eh. It doesn't really matter who said it, so much as what it means. Anyone wanting to see to it that these fucks dont get their way, I hope will make sure to remember the meaning of these words. A time may come in which that meaning becomes the most vital of tools in undoing some of the greater evils of this world. No gods. No kings.

                  None of this is advice. I am not a lawyer. I am not an expert in any field. Etc

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                  Pharonic rule 2.0? Are you talking like Egypt?

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                    Chinese researchers publish in the same international journals everyone does, I don't think they are using CRISPR any differently than anyone this side of the pacific is.

                    Plus; https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/chinese-scientist-linked-to-gene-edited-babies-sentenced-to-prison

                    The verdict said the three defendants had not obtained qualification as doctors, pursued fame and profits, deliberately violated Chinese regulations on scientific research, and crossed an ethical line in both scientific research and medicine, according to Xinhua. It also said they had fabricated ethical review documents.

                    It's illegal.

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                    They follow the law?

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                      Pharonic rule 2.0? Are you talking like Egypt?

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                      The way Egypt was ruled in the distant past, yeah. Not to say it's a 1:1 comparison ofc, but the similarities, I hope, are evident.

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                      • semi_hemi_demigod@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                        Can’t wait for them to make their kids super smart and then their kids call them idiots.

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                        Because they will be smarter haha

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                          The rest will argue amongst themselves about why gamma always gets the laurel

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                          Don't get that reference...

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                            Don't get that reference...

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                            Red rising

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                              CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                              Once rich people gain any power or advantage they use it for themselves, often at the expense of others. Survival of the fittest. Another question is if they can effectively clone and gene edit themselves, will they have children with others at all or just make variants of themselves trying for perfection? If life extension technologies become viable, will they bother ,having kids or cloning themselves? These people are completely devoted to the satisfaction of their own egos, which controls them and they will redirect all resources toward their own interests. They are the absolute manifestation of selfishness and are the cautionary tale for why narcissism and egotism are a mental health disorder and not things we should let people run around with. Put them all in a psych ward.

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                                Yes.

                                But it’s already here. Education is already doing what you’re fearing. Rich people tend to have access to better education and thus having access to better salaries, positions, etc.

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                                Not just education, but what really matters- social connections. The wealthy only want to socialize with other wealthy people, so when their kids begin entering adulthood they’ll give them a leg up. Wealthy people control access to many high-paying jobs; the classic example is wall st, where unless you’re a rocket scientist your daddy has to know someone to get an internship.

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                                  Once rich people gain any power or advantage they use it for themselves, often at the expense of others. Survival of the fittest. Another question is if they can effectively clone and gene edit themselves, will they have children with others at all or just make variants of themselves trying for perfection? If life extension technologies become viable, will they bother ,having kids or cloning themselves? These people are completely devoted to the satisfaction of their own egos, which controls them and they will redirect all resources toward their own interests. They are the absolute manifestation of selfishness and are the cautionary tale for why narcissism and egotism are a mental health disorder and not things we should let people run around with. Put them all in a psych ward.

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                                  If I'm thinking like them with a huge ego I think they will go and make variants of themselves trying for perfection. Just a guess.

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                                    CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                    Back-alley gene editors and ripperdocs. You wanna be competitive? Can't afford legit implants or gene therapy? Take a chance on DIY cybernetics and methlab gene splicing drugs!

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                                      Red rising

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                                      Red rising

                                      I envy you people who read books. I only read maybe 5 books in my adult life. Never liked reading.

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                                        They follow the law?

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                                        I doubt any more or less than people here do

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                                        • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

                                          Back-alley gene editors and ripperdocs. You wanna be competitive? Can't afford legit implants or gene therapy? Take a chance on DIY cybernetics and methlab gene splicing drugs!

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                                          Cyberpunk?

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