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When rich people can edit their kids DNA won't that just lock everyone else out and create a new class?

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    CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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    Back-alley gene editors and ripperdocs. You wanna be competitive? Can't afford legit implants or gene therapy? Take a chance on DIY cybernetics and methlab gene splicing drugs!

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      Red rising

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      Red rising

      I envy you people who read books. I only read maybe 5 books in my adult life. Never liked reading.

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        They follow the law?

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        I doubt any more or less than people here do

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        • kolanaki@pawb.socialK [email protected]

          Back-alley gene editors and ripperdocs. You wanna be competitive? Can't afford legit implants or gene therapy? Take a chance on DIY cybernetics and methlab gene splicing drugs!

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          Cyberpunk?

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            CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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            Excerpt from the book Accelerando

            Free Chromosome Foundation has already published a manifesto calling for the creation of an intellectual-property-free genome with improved replacements for all commonly defective exons.

            If you would like to read more...

            Accelerando is a great sci-fi novel from Charles Stross, touching upon the theme of technological singularity. It is available as a free ebook, under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.5 License!

            Thus, I can legally reproduce parts of it here. This is the collected chronology of the future, found throughout the book (minus spoilers):

            https://prokonsul.blogspot.com/2008/12/accelerando.html?m=1

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            • Y [email protected]

              CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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              There already is that class but they’ll just look more like designer dogs and social media filters. Then middle class will be able to afford it and we’ll all be the same.

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                Cyberpunk?

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                Life eventually imitates art.

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                • Y [email protected]

                  CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                  Future Man, anyone? This is Biotic shit.

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                    Excerpt from the book Accelerando

                    Free Chromosome Foundation has already published a manifesto calling for the creation of an intellectual-property-free genome with improved replacements for all commonly defective exons.

                    If you would like to read more...

                    Accelerando is a great sci-fi novel from Charles Stross, touching upon the theme of technological singularity. It is available as a free ebook, under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-NoDerivs 2.5 License!

                    Thus, I can legally reproduce parts of it here. This is the collected chronology of the future, found throughout the book (minus spoilers):

                    https://prokonsul.blogspot.com/2008/12/accelerando.html?m=1

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                    I wish I could read books. Only read like 5 books as an adult.

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                      Future Man, anyone? This is Biotic shit.

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                      Once again reference to a book?

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                        I doubt any more or less than people here do

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                        C'mon man, really?

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                          Once again reference to a book?

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                          Nah, a pretty silly comedy tv show. It explores this exact thing. Natural born people are forced to live in the sewers and survive on rats while the Biotics scour all time and space to destroy them.

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                            C'mon man, really?

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                            Yeah, really.

                            I'm more concerned about the abuses of the government and billionaires in my own country. Why should I get my panties in a twist about a country on the other side of the planet in a language I don't speak? That's on their citizens to worry about. Me as a yankee and you as canuck worrying about the other side of the pacific is wasted effort at best, and buying into the military industrial complex at worst.

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                              Yeah, really.

                              I'm more concerned about the abuses of the government and billionaires in my own country. Why should I get my panties in a twist about a country on the other side of the planet in a language I don't speak? That's on their citizens to worry about. Me as a yankee and you as canuck worrying about the other side of the pacific is wasted effort at best, and buying into the military industrial complex at worst.

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                              But our side has rules, you assume they play by the rules. You should worry about countries that don't follow international rules.

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                                Yeah it’s a cool movie but the message of systemic disadvantages don’t matter if you try hard enough is a little questionable at best.

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                                For the kinds of class based gene editing we are likely to see, it kinda isn't. More attractive, bigger boobs, better predisposition to fitness, etc. That is all surmountable.

                                Where it falls apart are "goofy" looking people likely Michael Phelps who are straight up genetic freaks. But those aren't the kinds of genes the rich want... For themselves.

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                                  If I'm thinking like them with a huge ego I think they will go and make variants of themselves trying for perfection. Just a guess.

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                                  If they live forever, they would likely prefer to reshape the world to fit the parts of themselves they can't change, rather than passing the opportunity to gratify themselves forever, to someone else, even their own children. Rich and powerful people are absolutely terrible parents. I think their egos are big enough that children are just the best solution when they can't live forever.

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                                    If they live forever, they would likely prefer to reshape the world to fit the parts of themselves they can't change, rather than passing the opportunity to gratify themselves forever, to someone else, even their own children. Rich and powerful people are absolutely terrible parents. I think their egos are big enough that children are just the best solution when they can't live forever.

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                                    I dont think people will live forever. 300 years yea but not forever. Unless you are talking about replacing everything that fails with something new, then how much of you is the original person?

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                                      But our side has rules, you assume they play by the rules. You should worry about countries that don't follow international rules.

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                                      But our side has rules, you assume they play by the rules.

                                      China academia has the same problem that US academia has: publish or perish.

                                      And seriously, you can't say something like that and ignore all the BS the US government has been pulling internationally for decades. Trump murdered 14 random people on boats that weren't even in US territory, and seemingly no one on the international stage gives a shit

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                                        But our side has rules, you assume they play by the rules. You should worry about countries that don't follow international rules.

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                                        The "rules" allowed for the invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan. My government is arming and funding a genocide. Our rules are a pretext for the powerful and wealthy to do as they please, while constraining smaller countries.

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                                          CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                          Let them pick their own damned cotton.

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