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When rich people can edit their kids DNA won't that just lock everyone else out and create a new class?

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    CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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    I do wonder what traits the wealthy would tend to select for.

    I don't think rich people want their kids bashing their brains in playing football. They want to watch the lower classes play in their gladiator battles for the wealthy's entertainment. So if selecting for physical attributes, I see it being more around aesthetics than athletics.

    And they can select for intelligence, but they'd have to figure out how to not increase mental issues that correlate with intelligence. It's a pretty complicated relationship. And intelligence + education opportunities only gets so far without personality and random chance. Heck, I could point to some rich people who don't seem to value intelligence at all.

    If I could select for one thing, I would select for a strong immune system. Make a solid physical foundation for a person to build on and make their life of their own decisions.

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      Life eventually imitates art.

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      Eventually?? Black Mirror and the Handmaid's Tale aren't really all that old, and look at us right now! It's like it's a how-to-guide for these fascists..

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        Eventually?? Black Mirror and the Handmaid's Tale aren't really all that old, and look at us right now! It's like it's a how-to-guide for these fascists..

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        We don't have back-alley gene editors yet 🤷‍♂️

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        • Y [email protected]

          I wish I could read books. Only read like 5 books as an adult.

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          The only way to develop a new habit is to start doing the thing!

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          • N [email protected]

            The plot of the film Gattaca explores this, the idea of what society looks like when there's a class of genetically engineered, "superior" people, vs. the naturally born, "inferior" class.

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            Same for H. G. Wells- The Time Machine book in the part where the traveler meets the Morlocks and the Eloi.

            Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Time_Machine

            EDIT: Got my authors mixed up, it wasn't Jules Verne.

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            • vanth@reddthat.comV [email protected]

              I do wonder what traits the wealthy would tend to select for.

              I don't think rich people want their kids bashing their brains in playing football. They want to watch the lower classes play in their gladiator battles for the wealthy's entertainment. So if selecting for physical attributes, I see it being more around aesthetics than athletics.

              And they can select for intelligence, but they'd have to figure out how to not increase mental issues that correlate with intelligence. It's a pretty complicated relationship. And intelligence + education opportunities only gets so far without personality and random chance. Heck, I could point to some rich people who don't seem to value intelligence at all.

              If I could select for one thing, I would select for a strong immune system. Make a solid physical foundation for a person to build on and make their life of their own decisions.

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              You have played CK3?

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                Stop me if this is too large a leap, but I think maybe people in china value the well-being of their children. You know. Like everyone does, everywhere.

                Also, iPad babies are a phenomenon here. Pushing things before they're ready or we have a complete understanding of the consequences is a global phenomenon.

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                The people value this but does the government?

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                  Nah, a pretty silly comedy tv show. It explores this exact thing. Natural born people are forced to live in the sewers and survive on rats while the Biotics scour all time and space to destroy them.

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                  ... or they're just crazy people who chose to live in the tunnels and have an irrational hatred of hospitals. The biotics only traveled through time to stop them from changing the time line.

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                    rules isnt the right term I guess, ethics maybe, scientific principles, not pushing things before they are ready? Worried about the kids ya know. Things China might have a different view of.

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                    ...you think the US has scientific ethics? What the fuck have you been watching for the last 60 years?

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                      ...you think the US has scientific ethics? What the fuck have you been watching for the last 60 years?

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                      I just think they are better than China, maybe I'm wrong.

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                        The people value this but does the government?

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                        I mean, they prosecuted the guy. You tell me.

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                        • N [email protected]

                          The plot of the film Gattaca explores this, the idea of what society looks like when there's a class of genetically engineered, "superior" people, vs. the naturally born, "inferior" class.

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                          That movie is 9/10. The ending is absolutely beautiful.

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                          • Y [email protected]

                            CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                            Planet of the Rich, where the apes are billionaires and everyone else is... pretty much the same.

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                              I mean, they prosecuted the guy. You tell me.

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                              China prosecuted someone for something? No shit really?

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                              • N [email protected]

                                The plot of the film Gattaca explores this, the idea of what society looks like when there's a class of genetically engineered, "superior" people, vs. the naturally born, "inferior" class.

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                                Great movie, excellent performances

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                                • Y [email protected]

                                  The people value this but does the government?

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                                  Where are you getting the idea that the government in China doesn't care about their children?

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                                    Where are you getting the idea that the government in China doesn't care about their children?

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                                    Uh yea, I am, ya know maybe dissidents prisoners or Uyghurs peoples.

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                                      CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                      Eh. Climate Change is gonna ruin those plans anyways.

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                                      • Y [email protected]

                                        CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                                        I wouldn't worry about it .... evolution is all about the survival of the luckiest and most fortunate

                                        Sure it is survival of the fittest, strongest and most capable ... but often through earth's history .. survival is more often left to the survivors, the lucky few who were just fortunate to survive.

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                                        • Y [email protected]

                                          China prosecuted someone for something? No shit really?

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                                          https://lemmy.zip/post/48934693/21546329

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