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When rich people can edit their kids DNA won't that just lock everyone else out and create a new class?

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    CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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    Eh. Climate Change is gonna ruin those plans anyways.

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      CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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      I wouldn't worry about it .... evolution is all about the survival of the luckiest and most fortunate

      Sure it is survival of the fittest, strongest and most capable ... but often through earth's history .. survival is more often left to the survivors, the lucky few who were just fortunate to survive.

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      • Y [email protected]

        China prosecuted someone for something? No shit really?

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        https://lemmy.zip/post/48934693/21546329

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          I wouldn't worry about it .... evolution is all about the survival of the luckiest and most fortunate

          Sure it is survival of the fittest, strongest and most capable ... but often through earth's history .. survival is more often left to the survivors, the lucky few who were just fortunate to survive.

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          Its the ones that adapt the fastest

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          • Y [email protected]

            Lets hope they dont weed out empathy.

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            They already have. The few very rich friends I have (money is no object people) are all great at pretending to have empathy but their actions belie them

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            • Y [email protected]

              Uh yea, I am, ya know maybe dissidents prisoners or Uyghurs peoples.

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              I'm not here to downplay those problems in China. They are serious. But, that's not the government saying they don't care about children, it's saying that they have their own racist and bigoted political problems.

              And, if you've paid any attention, the US is doing really similar things and has been for a long time. We made some progress with the Civil rights movement, but we still have Black people arrested at 2x the rate of white, 37% of the prison pop is Black while they only represent 13% of the general pop. The education system has all but erased the cultural roots of Black Americans, and God forbid a Black teen uses slang to communicate. Most of the sectioning off of voting areas in the US is to minimize their and other minority's voting power. For now it's still legal to say "Hey this influencer really made life bad for me, and I'm okay with him being dead", but it may not remain legal for long. EPA regulations are being dissolved, but the biggest problems will affect traditionally/forced Black neighborhoods.

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                I'm not here to downplay those problems in China. They are serious. But, that's not the government saying they don't care about children, it's saying that they have their own racist and bigoted political problems.

                And, if you've paid any attention, the US is doing really similar things and has been for a long time. We made some progress with the Civil rights movement, but we still have Black people arrested at 2x the rate of white, 37% of the prison pop is Black while they only represent 13% of the general pop. The education system has all but erased the cultural roots of Black Americans, and God forbid a Black teen uses slang to communicate. Most of the sectioning off of voting areas in the US is to minimize their and other minority's voting power. For now it's still legal to say "Hey this influencer really made life bad for me, and I'm okay with him being dead", but it may not remain legal for long. EPA regulations are being dissolved, but the biggest problems will affect traditionally/forced Black neighborhoods.

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                Not all children are equal in the US and the same holds true for China, But the difference is staggering.

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                • ininewcrow@lemmy.caI [email protected]

                  I wouldn't worry about it .... evolution is all about the survival of the luckiest and most fortunate

                  Sure it is survival of the fittest, strongest and most capable ... but often through earth's history .. survival is more often left to the survivors, the lucky few who were just fortunate to survive.

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                  "Fittest" never meant "best", just "most capable of effective adaptation", FWIW.

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                  • hotsaucehurricane@lemmy.worldH [email protected]

                    That movie is 9/10. The ending is absolutely beautiful.

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                    Spoilers!

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                      Yes.

                      But it’s already here. Education is already doing what you’re fearing. Rich people tend to have access to better education and thus having access to better salaries, positions, etc.

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                      That's been SOP since... checks human history

                      Oh. Forever? Hunh.

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                      • I [email protected]

                        Not just education, but what really matters- social connections. The wealthy only want to socialize with other wealthy people, so when their kids begin entering adulthood they’ll give them a leg up. Wealthy people control access to many high-paying jobs; the classic example is wall st, where unless you’re a rocket scientist your daddy has to know someone to get an internship.

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                        Yes. People fight for the $50K to $100K jobs, missing the boat on the $250K jobs.

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                        • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

                          "Fittest" never meant "best", just "most capable of effective adaptation", FWIW.

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                          Dinosaurs would have evolved into more exotic forms if they hadn't been wiped out by an asteroid

                          We might unfortunately end ourselves through our own actions in a similar way

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                          • Y [email protected]

                            CRISPR and other tools aren’t science fiction anymore. If the wealthy get there first, what happens to everyone else?

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                            In Echopraxia, the transhuman pilot repeatedly calls the old guy a "roach".

                            “I’ve told you before, Daniel: roach isn’t an insult. We’re the ones still standing after the mammals build their nukes, we’re the ones with the stripped-down OS’s so damned simple they work under almost any circumstances. We’re the goddamned Kalashnikovs of thinking meat.”

                            ― Peter Watts, Echopraxia

                            And one of my favorite Heinlein quotes:

                            “A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.”

                            ― Robert A. Heinlein

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                            • Y [email protected]

                              I'll be dead, humanity is fucked as i see it but things could change i guess.

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                              Humanity has been fucked many times before. Humans migrated out of Africa TWICE. We have been nearly wiped out several times. Maybe this will be the last time. Maybe Humans will migrate out of Africa a third time....

                              Reference provided, but not read.
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_human_migrations

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                              • otter@lemmy.dbzer0.comO [email protected]

                                "Fittest" never meant "best", just "most capable of effective adaptation", FWIW.

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                                "Luck" meaning, having a lucky mutation that's beneficial to reproducing in the current ecosystem.

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                                  In Echopraxia, the transhuman pilot repeatedly calls the old guy a "roach".

                                  “I’ve told you before, Daniel: roach isn’t an insult. We’re the ones still standing after the mammals build their nukes, we’re the ones with the stripped-down OS’s so damned simple they work under almost any circumstances. We’re the goddamned Kalashnikovs of thinking meat.”

                                  ― Peter Watts, Echopraxia

                                  And one of my favorite Heinlein quotes:

                                  “A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects.”

                                  ― Robert A. Heinlein

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                                  Ah once again i wish i read books.. I think if I was to pick up a book it would be the novels behind the show The Expanse. I feel like they left a lot out of the show that was in the books.

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                                    "Luck" meaning, having a lucky mutation that's beneficial to reproducing in the current ecosystem.

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                                    Luck as in 'lucky enough to have your entire species wiped out by a single unforeseen catastrophic event or climatic change'

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                                    • Y [email protected]

                                      You have played CK3?

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                                      Nope, no idea what that acronym means.

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                                      • vanth@reddthat.comV [email protected]

                                        Nope, no idea what that acronym means.

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                                        Its a game called Crusader Kings 3. its about picking traits for offspring for your successors but so much more than that.

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                                        • burgerbaron@piefed.socialB [email protected]

                                          Eh. Climate Change is gonna ruin those plans anyways.

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                                          Or nuclear war or the ozone layer.

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