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Why Lemmy is so superior to Reddit: No Karma, Just Value Content

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  • ? Guest

    Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

    EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

    Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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    by ditching the Karma farmers

    How, exactly? Decentralization aside, lemmy is a reddit clone, but on a smaller scale. The same human psychology that drives reddit also drives lemmy. I think your assessment is more applicable to mastodon because there you really have to figure out how to fill your feed with content.

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    • ? Guest

      Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

      EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

      Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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      Well, and also because I can express my hope that a piano fall on Spez's head.

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        Isn't Karma essentially just the delta between upvotes and downvotes you get with some sort of weighting thrown in?

        Because you can very much get that delta on here, it just isn't visible in the default Lemmy interface. If you look at your account through an Mbin frontend for example you can see the "Reputation points" value in the sidebar: https://fedia.io/u/@[email protected]

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        I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

        Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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          by ditching the Karma farmers

          How, exactly? Decentralization aside, lemmy is a reddit clone, but on a smaller scale. The same human psychology that drives reddit also drives lemmy. I think your assessment is more applicable to mastodon because there you really have to figure out how to fill your feed with content.

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          I put an edit since many had the same rebuttal.

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          • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

            ...what do you think "karma" is?

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            Read the edit

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              Read the edit

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              Read the title.

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                Well, and also because I can express my hope that a piano fall on Spez's head.

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                And we're allowed to say Nazi's are bad

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                • ? Guest

                  Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                  EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                  Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                  Lemmy still has comment karma. Mine's at 1500.

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                  • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                    Read the title.

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                    Read whatever you want, but read ಠ╭╮ಠ

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                    • psythik@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                      Lemmy still has comment karma. Mine's at 1500.

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                      that's number of comments, not total points.

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                      • ? Guest

                        Read whatever you want, but read ಠ╭╮ಠ

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                        I read all of it. The title says "no karma". We have "karma". Which is why I'm questioning what you think karma is.

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                          Just don’t be a woman on Lemmy.

                          Sure, most people won’t downvote or harass you just for being a woman (a lot will.. we didn’t get the best of Reddit at all, and I doubt the new adoptees are any better…) but they will often enough make things difficult even if they aren’t actively causing problems.

                          But men of Lemmy (aka the vast majority of the user base since they ran off all the womenfolk) don’t care. They see that as quality control or some dumb shit, because THEY aren’t interested in woman things, so nobody should be, or they think their “as a man” comments should be important or some shit... Whatever the post is about. If it doesn’t cater to them, it can fuck right off.

                          Which is why cis women make up <10% of the Lemmy side of the fediverse. It’s a disaster for women here.

                          But I wonder how long you’ve been here. Most of the posts of this nature are from very new accounts and they don’t know the problems yet…

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                          That's how it is anywhere that doesn't have any real moderation. There are those actively seek to harass anyone who isn't right leaning cis hetero white male. Lemmy like every other modern social platform is an open air forum available to the entire 7 billion population of the world. Moderators don't see 99% of the posts. And 99% of what they do see, they don't take for than a few seconds to consider. The nefarious abusers are almost always more subtle than moderators give thought to. This allows harassment to run rampant. This is a fundamental issue with social media. As as I'm concerned it's an intractable problem (brought you by free speech absolutist libertarian bros).

                          That's as opposed to the traditional internet boards where posting was orders of magnitude lower volume. Site administrators and moderators cared about fostering a good community. Moderators saw a not insignificant portion of the content posted. Not just reports. Forum members used one pseudonym. No throwaways like the reddit/lemmy paradigm. What you posted was attached to you as a person. Therefore there was consequences to being an asshole. In other words deterrence.

                          Also I find it kind of amusing how they out themselves for their simpleton world view. I've noticed a pattern where they take superficial readings of a post to identify keywords/phrases. Then assign identity to that user. Then engage in harassment based on that.

                          For example say I posted something that was sympathetic to women. Ergo they assume I am a woman. And they engage the usual framework of belligerent replies appropriate to that assumed identity. I know for certain the key words in the second sentence of this comment already has triggered someone for sure.

                          Edit: The prior replies are just *chefs kiss*. I can't tell if they're being intentional or if they're just that dumb. I guess that's part of the fun isn't it.

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                            And we're allowed to say Nazi's are bad

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                            You just get the occasional weirdo from a weirdo instance arguing otherwise

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                              And we're allowed to say Nazi's are bad

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                              It's comparing lemmy to Reddit, not to the twitter zombie

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                              • presidentcamacho@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                                that's number of comments, not total points.

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                                Impossible. I don't comment that much

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                                • ulrich@feddit.orgU [email protected]

                                  I read all of it. The title says "no karma". We have "karma". Which is why I'm questioning what you think karma is.

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                                  Ok this is my profile... Where is the karma count? What communities can't I post in with a low karma?

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                                  • suoko@feddit.itS [email protected]

                                    It's comparing lemmy to Reddit, not to the twitter zombie

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                                    Sadly Reddit has been toeing the line and has been banning any accounts for "threatening violence" for any support of Luigi no matter how peaceful or non-violent or ANY criticism of Elon The Musky Husky

                                    Heck even before my account was banned I was warned for "advocating violence" just for saying "It's understandable to wanna punch Nazis"

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                                      Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                                      EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                                      Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                                      Quality content? You mean the exact same stuff that’s on Reddit, often copied directly from Reddit?

                                      800,000 “Trump bad! Look at this latest bad thing Elong did!” posts a day is not quality content

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                                      • psythik@lemm.eeP [email protected]

                                        Impossible. I don't comment that much

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                                        idk what to tell you, but that is what that number means. Here is mine, you can see it shows a 1 as ive only ever made 1 post, and not a 3 for the number of points on my only post. Also im not sure this applies to other lemmy instances, might just be a lemm.ee thing.

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                                          Why make this assumption? Is there a reason you believe we need that karma system? I genuinely can’t think of any reason, outside of corporate interest to push engagement.

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                                          You have nine up votes for this comment.

                                          Can see it on boost for Lemmy.

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