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Why Lemmy is so superior to Reddit: No Karma, Just Value Content

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  • A [email protected]

    Why would anyone be on all? Even with reddit I I quit going to all probably 10 years ago....

    And don't let my Lemmy age fool you, I drop my account every 6 to 8 months. It took my a lot longer to figure that out on reddit.

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    How do I find new communities to join if not for all?

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      You have nine up votes for this comment.

      Can see it on boost for Lemmy.

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      Of course you can see the comment’s individual karma. But, if you got my profile or yours, there is not accumulated karma.

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        Well, and also because I can express my hope that a piano fall on Spez's head.

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        Also, smaller servers means that it's easier to spot criminal communities and boot their asses. Also individual servers can be cracked down on for hosting evil content, without all of Lemmy being destroyed.

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        • S [email protected]

          It's one of two things

          1. Your app doesn't hide things that are marked as read. This is typically a setting you can choose.

          2. The same content is being posted to multiple communities or multiple instances (if you are watching global feed). This is not something that can be fixed I think.

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          I've heard certain clients or servers are able to spot crossposts and reposts, and mark them as crossposts/reposts. I definitely know that the app I use does not.

          I think it's doable. It'd likely require hashing posts so that Lemmy apps can keep track of those hashes.

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          • A [email protected]

            How do I find new communities to join if not for all?

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            You just click on communities and browse or search for ones to subscribe to.

            Although if you are a smaller instance you may not see as many if others haven't branched out if I understand correctly.

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              Of course you can see the comment’s individual karma. But, if you got my profile or yours, there is not accumulated karma.

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              Ah, i see now what you're saying now. I'm sorry for being thick.

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                Lemmy's design is focused on quality content by ditching the Karma farmers and addicts. No more chasing upvotes—people here actually focus on real value instead of feeding the ego.

                EDIT: I know there are upvotes and downvotes, but the problem with Reddit is you can't post in most communities if your karma or reputation is bad. This is a big problem because herd mentality prevails there and if ypu have unpopular opinions you're basically censored.

                Lemmy isn't designed to milk ypur dopamine with notifications every 10 upvotes, so you focus more on posting valuable cont instead of farming for approval and upvotes.

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                I just hope that Lemmy stays nice. I don't want it to reach 100 million+ users and be overwhelmed with RAGEBAIT and scams.

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                  It's one of two things

                  1. Your app doesn't hide things that are marked as read. This is typically a setting you can choose.

                  2. The same content is being posted to multiple communities or multiple instances (if you are watching global feed). This is not something that can be fixed I think.

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                  1. Apps could save a list of visited posts; and check for every post in your feed whether you had already visited a crosspost of it before. But it'd have to be implemented i guess.
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                  • deathray5@lemmynsfw.comD [email protected]

                    For all the problems with karma it did allow for effective filtering. With most accounts on Lemmy being harder to create with captcha and approval it might not be needed

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                    Yeah i just hope it stays that way and users stay genuine. A while ago i noticed some users who were really stubborn about some weird agenda. Not sure if bot or just stupid human.

                    Also, nicole (the fediverse chick) is turning into a problem.

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                    • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                      I just hope that Lemmy stays nice. I don't want it to reach 100 million+ users and be overwhelmed with RAGEBAIT and scams.

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                      Ragebait here is saying you like Windows for its open design.

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                      • B [email protected]

                        Our value comes from our superior bean-based posting economy.

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                        fun fact: i'm allergic to beans (i think), but i still like it here

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                        • deathray5@lemmynsfw.comD [email protected]

                          For all the problems with karma it did allow for effective filtering. With most accounts on Lemmy being harder to create with captcha and approval it might not be needed

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                          I disagree.

                          All bots and astroturfers had no problem getting 500 karma or whatever with one /r/funny repost. Which just meant new users can't contribute and every subreddit is left with power users and trolls.

                          This would be even easier to game on Lemmy as it's much more open and federated so getting 500 karma by a bot would be super easy.

                          The only reliable way to moderate is manual review with technical fingerprint. I work in online fraud detection.

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                            I disagree.

                            All bots and astroturfers had no problem getting 500 karma or whatever with one /r/funny repost. Which just meant new users can't contribute and every subreddit is left with power users and trolls.

                            This would be even easier to game on Lemmy as it's much more open and federated so getting 500 karma by a bot would be super easy.

                            The only reliable way to moderate is manual review with technical fingerprint. I work in online fraud detection.

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                            Bots it was pretty poor against. But it was amazing for random trolls who manually created accounts. Did cause disruption for newer uses though you just manually approve a few comments until they get over the karma threshold. I just wish there was a one click "ignore this filter for this account"

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                              Ragebait here is saying you like Windows for its open design.

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                              • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.deG [email protected]

                                I just hope that Lemmy stays nice. I don't want it to reach 100 million+ users and be overwhelmed with RAGEBAIT and scams.

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                                It will get corrupted, but we'll find the right crowd then, this shit always happens.

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                                • rickyrigatoni@lemm.eeR [email protected]

                                  Give it another year or two and we'll have some website that tallies the karma of lemmy users. Clout is an insidious disease that grows like a social cancer.

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                                  Give it another year or two and we’ll have some website that tallies the karma of lemmy users. Clout is an insidious disease that grows like a social cancer.

                                  It has already happened with this piece of cancer.

                                  https://join.piefed.social/2024/06/22/piefed-features-for-growing-healthy-communities/

                                  Find people who have low karma

                                  When someone is consistently getting downvoted it’s likely they are a problem. PieFed provides a list of accounts with low karma, sorted by lowest first. Clicking on their user name takes you to their profile which shows all their posts and comments in one place. Every profile has “Ban” and “Ban + Purge” buttons that have instance-wide effects and are only visible to admins.

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                                    Quality content? You mean the exact same stuff that’s on Reddit, often copied directly from Reddit?

                                    800,000 “Trump bad! Look at this latest bad thing Elong did!” posts a day is not quality content

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                                    You mean the exact same stuff that’s on Reddit, often copied directly from Reddit?

                                    No. We mean all the stuff that Lemmy gets that Reddit either doesn't get at all or gets a day later than Lemmy.

                                    “Trump bad! Look at this latest bad thing Elong did!” posts a day is not quality content

                                    This bad thing that Trump did looks like very worthwhile content.

                                    https://lemmy.world/post/26990437

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                                      Piefed implements an "attitude" system which tracks up vote ratio and a few other simple metrics mods can use to identify bad actors

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                                      "bad actors" simply means "unpopular or politically incorrect opinions". Fuck that.

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                                        Yeah but I won't because I like dopamine.

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                                        • D [email protected]

                                          Genuinely curious, does that mean that, for you, getting downvoted gives you dopamine/a sense of accomplishment?

                                          Your above comment is in the negative when I'm making this comment. Does that feel good? Again, genuinely curious, hard to put a non-judgemental tone in writing.

                                          I can't relate to that feeling, upvotes and downvotes to me show how much a community agrees or disagrees with what I've said. Either what I said isn't right for the community I posted it in or maybe just a generally unpopular opinion if I'm getting downvotes. Might make me reflect but usually no big deal, I'm mostly here for the discussions, memes and current events. Outside of trolling I don't really see how getting downvoted might be seen as a good thing by a poster.

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                                          Does that feel good?

                                          I just want the absolute value of my comment's karma to be high. That means it has been read at least that many times.

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