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  • T [email protected]

    Alright guys, it’s time to roll out the guillotines again

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    This is America, sniper rifles would be more useful.

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      Head-in-the-sand strategies wont work, you'll just pull your head out to a worse situation. It's better to learn to put your fear and anxiety to use, keeping the treason of these Nazis in front of the entire world. Make them know how despised they are in decreasing polls. Resist everything they are doing, and encourage your friends. Apply Malicious Compliance wherever possible. Keep the pressure on your government officials. Recent town halls for both Republicans and Democrats have been heavily attended by EXTREMELY angry citizens. They need to know how angry we are, and how immensely outnumbered they are.

      Lean into your worrying, transform it into anger, and let that fuel your resistance.

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      If the situation really is that bad, you’ll hear about it without any doomscrolling. If you don’t come across a topic in normal casual conversations or by reading papers in a library, it’s probably not actually that urgent.

      There’s so much unnecessary doom and gloom floating around on mainstream social medias that I can’t really consider them a healthy option for news consumption.

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        And Facebook and Xitter are nothing in comparison with TT. At least in Poland they are pushing „fun and trendy” far right, „common sense” far right and russian talking points into every feed. As far as I understand this is also true for most of the Europe.

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        The recent New Yorker article, The Cruel Kids' Table, was particularly worrying because it illustrated how fascism has moved from the fringes into mainstream youth culture. We could be looking at a generation of enthusiastic fascists in the wake of Trump.

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        • hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyzH [email protected]

          No more doomscrolling for you. Spend time with real people face to face, and you’ll feel the difference within a week.

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          I understand where it comes from, but I think this is just bad advice. We cannot encourage people to ignore what is happening.

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          • hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyzH [email protected]

            If the situation really is that bad, you’ll hear about it without any doomscrolling. If you don’t come across a topic in normal casual conversations or by reading papers in a library, it’s probably not actually that urgent.

            There’s so much unnecessary doom and gloom floating around on mainstream social medias that I can’t really consider them a healthy option for news consumption.

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            This is such a privileged take. And I know because I'm also privileged. I'm a straight, white, cis, male. I grew up in an Evangelical Christian home, and could pretend to be Christian if needed (though I won't). You and I are lucky enough to be able to ignore this until we "hear about it without doomscrolling."

            Like you do realize that this means that you'll hear about it when shit is really fucking bad. I guess fuck trans people, right?

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            • hamartiogonic@sopuli.xyzH [email protected]

              If the situation really is that bad, you’ll hear about it without any doomscrolling. If you don’t come across a topic in normal casual conversations or by reading papers in a library, it’s probably not actually that urgent.

              There’s so much unnecessary doom and gloom floating around on mainstream social medias that I can’t really consider them a healthy option for news consumption.

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              I AM hearing about it without doomscrolling. Do you watch ANY news, or any other media?

              This isn't just Liberal propaganda, these people are really dismantling our government at a record pace, and they are deliberately doing it recklessly to cause the most chaos. Not only can we NOT avoid it, we SHOULDNT avoid it. We need to turn our fears and worries into white-hot anger at what these MAGATurd Nazis are doing to our nation, and the world.

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                All bark and no bite?

                Did you see the clips of "Venezuelan gang members" being shipped to El Salvador, who was happy to accept them? In the past few years i saw photos and videos of Russian prisoners and Chinese Uyghurs treated exactly the same way, with outage from the Western media and officials. Now were doing it, too. Instead of seeing those reports as a cautionary tale, MAGA Traitors saw them as a game plan.

                People like Kapo Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller and Steve "Unwiped Asshole" Bannon want to treat their American citizen enemies the same way, and worse. Miller has said that he wants to reduce the population of America to 100 million, from its current population of 330 million. How do you think a Nazi loving freak like him intends to reduce the population by 70%?

                Viciously barking dogs are often vicious biters as well. When a dog is barking, its best to heed the warning.

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                Pretty sure the USA have been doing extraditions and puting prisoners in off-side camps (Guantanamo anyone) since long before trump.

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                  Putin's control over Trump, Musk, and entire world-wide rise of the far-right is well-established, with the evidence in the wide open. Trump and Musk had numerous personal meetings with Putin during the Biden administration, and it is clear the these two FOREIGN Sociopathic Oligarchs with no loyalty or patriotism to America, have partnered up with the most prolific traitor in American history. They dont see the potential for greatness and morality that America has always promised, they only see a rich, fat, lazy nation that will be easy to exploit for their own personal benefits.

                  Putin and Russia are obviously behind all of this, and denying it will only make it easier for them to progress further, and eventually succeed.

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                  To be honest, the entire idea that you could use a loose cannon like Trump as an agent is pretty stupid by itself. The man doesn’t have a clue in the morning what he’ll be saying in the evening. The ‘evidence’ is one guy, as far as I’ve gathered, but feel free to make the case.

                  Outside of ‘the evil Russians rule the world’, there are plenty of reasons for the way Trump is acting. I think what we’re seeing is more a return (or an attempted return, anyway) of 19th/early 20th century thinking in spheres of influence, where Trump thinks it’s alright that Russia ‘gets’ Ukraine as part of it’s sphere of influence, if America gets Canada and Greenland. Whether it’ll actually work this way is another question, of course (I actually doubt it will). We don’t actually know how Trumps presidency will actually develop. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump actually will end up getting mad at Putin if he doesn’t play by his rules.

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                    Ugh I'm so sick of these Heritage assholes. There's needs to be an American progressive counter organization.

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                    Oops, all fed boi honeypots!

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                      The Heritage Foundation is a treasonous organization. They need to be stopped. I fail to understand how Project 2025 isn't outright sedition, and it should've been treated that way by Biden.

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                      It's been clear to anyone who read it that P2025 planned to dismantle the government and shred the constitution. If they were left leaning, the FBI would've been so far up the Heritage Foundation's ass, they would've been looking through their eyes like a Scooby doo painting.

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                      • donantoniomagino@feddit.nlD [email protected]

                        That's pretty much my view. The extreme right in Europe and the US also forms a collaborative network itself, though, with events like CPAC. I'd be more afraid of the US than of Russia, honestly.

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                        For the past 10 years would I have to disagree. US conservatives didn't give much of a shit about what was going on in Europe, while Putin scored many wins strategically working with right-wing groups throughout Europe, culminating in Brexit, and no doubt trying to set the stage for the invasion of Ukraine. (Which was supposed to be over within a day by toppling the government in Kyiv.)

                        For the future, we'll see. This is definitely a worrying development. It seems half of the US political establishment and about a third of the populace is determined to treat us as enemies simply because it fits their internal propaganda, no matter how much damage it does to US foreign policy. This means that bargaining is useless, and it seems at least that most European governments have internalized this, even though they may hope this state of affairs will pass.

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                          Alright guys, it’s time to roll out the guillotines again

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                          I hear certain parts of the European Union can teach us a thing or two about those!

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                            To be honest, the entire idea that you could use a loose cannon like Trump as an agent is pretty stupid by itself. The man doesn’t have a clue in the morning what he’ll be saying in the evening. The ‘evidence’ is one guy, as far as I’ve gathered, but feel free to make the case.

                            Outside of ‘the evil Russians rule the world’, there are plenty of reasons for the way Trump is acting. I think what we’re seeing is more a return (or an attempted return, anyway) of 19th/early 20th century thinking in spheres of influence, where Trump thinks it’s alright that Russia ‘gets’ Ukraine as part of it’s sphere of influence, if America gets Canada and Greenland. Whether it’ll actually work this way is another question, of course (I actually doubt it will). We don’t actually know how Trumps presidency will actually develop. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump actually will end up getting mad at Putin if he doesn’t play by his rules.

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                            I look at Trump having meetings with Putin where none of Trump's advisors were allowed to attend, no transcripts were published, and I think they even used only Russian translators.

                            So either Trump is controlling Putin, or Putin is controlling Trump. I know which way to bet.

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                              I look at Trump having meetings with Putin where none of Trump's advisors were allowed to attend, no transcripts were published, and I think they even used only Russian translators.

                              So either Trump is controlling Putin, or Putin is controlling Trump. I know which way to bet.

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                              I look at Trump barely being able to utter a coherent English sentence, and I doubt he could control even himself.

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                                To be honest, the entire idea that you could use a loose cannon like Trump as an agent is pretty stupid by itself. The man doesn’t have a clue in the morning what he’ll be saying in the evening. The ‘evidence’ is one guy, as far as I’ve gathered, but feel free to make the case.

                                Outside of ‘the evil Russians rule the world’, there are plenty of reasons for the way Trump is acting. I think what we’re seeing is more a return (or an attempted return, anyway) of 19th/early 20th century thinking in spheres of influence, where Trump thinks it’s alright that Russia ‘gets’ Ukraine as part of it’s sphere of influence, if America gets Canada and Greenland. Whether it’ll actually work this way is another question, of course (I actually doubt it will). We don’t actually know how Trumps presidency will actually develop. I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump actually will end up getting mad at Putin if he doesn’t play by his rules.

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                                You don't understand Putin's strategy. Controlling America would be great, but he doesn't have to control it, he just has to throw it into chaos, so that its outsized influence in the world is destroyed. Then they can establish a new world order in which Sociopathic Oligarchs run the world instead nations. If they succeed, every Sociopathic Oligarch becomes his own little King, free from the restrictions of his nation's laws. That's why every billionaire is on board, and why we should prohibit billionaires, if we even survive this.

                                In 1997, Alexander Dugin published Foundations in Geopolitics, which has become the Russian playbook. It is taught at the Russian Officer's School, and Putin keeps a copy in his office. Dugin is a highly influential advisor to Putin. His daughter rose to be an extremely influential member of the Russian Intelligence agency. She was killed by a car bomb few years ago, which as meant for her father, who was saved when he went back to retrieve his umbrella.

                                Foundations of Geopolitics describes how Russia can become the dominant world influence without firing a shot. Each geographical region of the world has its own plan. For America, the plan is:

                                Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States and Canada to fuel instabilty and separatism against neoliberal globalist Western hegemony, such as, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists" to create severe backlash against the rotten political state of affairs in the current present-day system of the United States and Canada. Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic conflict, social, and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements - extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics.

                                Sound familiar? It perfectly describes the growing divisions in this country in the 21st century. How can you call this a coincidence?

                                Of particular interest is the very first line: "Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States..." What does that mean? What "special forces" had Russia planted in America in 1997, when this book was published. We now know that the FBI was aware of Russian moles in America as early as 2000, but these people were quietly placed in sensitive positions to get access to information. They weren't the kind of "special forces" intended to sow chaos.

                                OTOH, Trump was a friend to the Russians since 1987, when he visited SOVIET Russia, and was given the designation Agent Krasnov. Soon after that visit, he began parroting Russian propaganda talking points and laundering money for Russian Oligarchs/Mobsters. It is likely that Agent Krasnov was at least one of the "special forces" referred to.

                                Now he is president again, and this time he came into office prepared with a plan - Project 2025. Our government is being systematically and recklessly dismantled, and we are quickly careening toward chaos. The day the first Social Security payment is missed, which will be soon, America will come apart at the seams.

                                It all fits the plan for America in The Foundation of Geopolitics. We saw how he was a supplicant to Putin during his first term, and we know Trump and Musk were both in close contact with Putin during the Biden years. We know that nearly everyone in Trump's orbit during his first term (Flynn, Manafort, et al) were so involved with the Russians that many went to prison for what essentially amounts to treason. All of that, and much more, and you still think Trump's connections to Putin/Russia are doubtful?

                                Polish your Critical Thinking Skills, and hone your Google-Fu. You need to do more research.

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                                  The group that drafted a key blueprint for Donald Trump’s second term convened a meeting in Washington D.C. this week to consider proposals for bulldozing the European Union (EU).

                                  The Polish investigative outlet VSquare revealed that the Heritage Foundation gathered hardline conservative groups on 11 March to hear how they would overhaul the current structures of the EU.

                                  The “closed-door workshop” featured a debate on a new paper produced by the lobby groups MCC and Ordo Iuris entitled: “The Great Reset: Restoring Member State Sovereignty in the 21st Century”.

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                                  I really think any countries which may try to leave the eu should think about how well that went for Britan.

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                                    This is America, sniper rifles would be more useful.

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                                    They already tried that. We forgot about that guy because a much more attractive shooter caught our attention.

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                                      .4. Shoot Geert Wilders and the rest of the pvv.

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                                      Isn't he the "We Heeben een serrious probleem" guy?

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                                        Pretty sure the USA have been doing extraditions and puting prisoners in off-side camps (Guantanamo anyone) since long before trump.

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                                        Sure they have, i remember the 9/11 aftermath, and Abu Ghraib, very well. But we didnt brag about it, we didnt prepare video packages to be distributed to the news media. They knew what they were doing was inhumane and they tried to hide it. They werent PROUD of it, like these MAGANazis.

                                        Also, there is a huge difference in what happened before, and what they are planning for in the future. America has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Our maximum security prisons average around 800-1200 inmates. The largest, in Angola, LA holds about 8300.

                                        Guantanamo Bay holds less than 150, but they are currently building a facility there that will hold 30,000 people, almost 4 times larger than our largest maximum security prison, which itself is about 4 times larger than average.

                                        Clearly they are planning to house an enormous number of people in a facility in CUBA, which is under the purview of the Russians, and outside the view of the courts and the media. Why would they need a facility to hold 30,000 people if they are going to deport them all? It seems like a place that large will be used for long-term detainment, and what's the point of that for illegals? They'll just get sent home. More and more, we are seeing lightning fast deportations, and it becomes clear that these cells will be holding political enemies who have broken Trump's new Executive Orders.

                                        2 days ago, he did a formal, scheduled media appearance with his AG Bondi, in which he very clearly stated that he will be going after the people who investigated his ties to Russia, the Insurrection, the Stolen Documents, etc., he specifically said that they "belong in prison."

                                        When a President takes the time to make a formal announcement to the media, with his AG at his side, that is NOT simple political rhetoric, nor partisan gamesmanship. It is the announcement of a new policy, and he just announced that he intends to imprison his political enemies.

                                        They've already arrested that Palestinian activest from Columbia U, who literally broke no laws, who has a green card, is married to an American who is 8 months pregnant, and they won't let him see a lawyer. They are testing the waters by muddying his case up with undocumented migrants. If nobody speaks up much, then they'll move to the next level, and start rounding up American dissidents. You can bet that they going over case files right now, looking for the best test candidates to detain.

                                        Bottom line is that the difference between the past and now is that in the past they were disappearing foreign terrorists. Now they intend on disappearing American citizens, and a LOT of them.

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                                          They already tried that. We forgot about that guy because a much more attractive shooter caught our attention.

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                                          Nah, we all know that was obviously staged.

                                          Besides, I'm not talking about one dumb kid who doesnt know how to shoot, I'm talking about Patriots stalking MAGA Nazis all over the country, and making them worry that every time they step out of their house, they have to worry that there's a sniper on a roof or in the distant tree line. They're all abject cowards; how devoted to the cause will they be if they know that being an elected MAGANazi carries a potential death sentence?

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