Trump Admin Deports 2-Year-Old Girl Who Is American Citizen
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What usually happens if parents are deported? They stay in the US with somebody else?
This article says that authorities claim the mother wanted to take their child with them. Who knows if that’s true, but could mean the post has an inflammatory headline.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportation-donald-trump-00311631
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What usually happens if parents are deported? They stay in the US with somebody else?
This article says that authorities claim the mother wanted to take their child with them. Who knows if that’s true, but could mean the post has an inflammatory headline.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportation-donald-trump-00311631
be a worse situation if trump seperated the family and kept the kid
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be a worse situation if trump seperated the family and kept the kid
Yeah. Foster system is awful.
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What usually happens if parents are deported? They stay in the US with somebody else?
This article says that authorities claim the mother wanted to take their child with them. Who knows if that’s true, but could mean the post has an inflammatory headline.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportation-donald-trump-00311631
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781.1.0.pdf
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https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781.6.0_3.pdfIndeed. If you read the actual response... no deportation occurred for the 2 year old.
From the petitioner's council:
The officer overheard and said that V.M.L. would not be deported and explained that V.M.L.’s mother and sister had deportation orders.
From ICE:
Should her mother decide to allow Petitioner Mack and the purported father to take custody of V.M.L., V.M.L. is not prohibited from entering the United States.
The claim is that the father didn't identify himself (likely because of his own immigration status), so they couldn't release child to him. Since he didn't want to identify himself, any claim that the mother wanted to take the child with her must be held, no "friend" can take custody at that point. The only identified parent isn't consenting.
It looks like there was an exhibit referenced in the ICE response document. That exhibit is likely the letter they reference that the mother wrote.
It's a shit situation... It's not good in the slightest, but it isn't "American Citizen deported".
Mother can easily state that she would like to give custody to the petitioning "friend" and V.M.L. can return.
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I want all of us to say this out loud to others today
Trump deported a 2 year old American citizen
He DEPORTED a 2 year old American citizen
Fucking Hitler come back. He is.
I will say this, as fucked as he made America right now, if we didn't have what safety rails we do have, we'd be seeing executions. That guy is a monster, a criminal, traitor, and a ticking time bomb.
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https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781.1.0.pdf
and
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781.6.0_3.pdfIndeed. If you read the actual response... no deportation occurred for the 2 year old.
From the petitioner's council:
The officer overheard and said that V.M.L. would not be deported and explained that V.M.L.’s mother and sister had deportation orders.
From ICE:
Should her mother decide to allow Petitioner Mack and the purported father to take custody of V.M.L., V.M.L. is not prohibited from entering the United States.
The claim is that the father didn't identify himself (likely because of his own immigration status), so they couldn't release child to him. Since he didn't want to identify himself, any claim that the mother wanted to take the child with her must be held, no "friend" can take custody at that point. The only identified parent isn't consenting.
It looks like there was an exhibit referenced in the ICE response document. That exhibit is likely the letter they reference that the mother wrote.
It's a shit situation... It's not good in the slightest, but it isn't "American Citizen deported".
Mother can easily state that she would like to give custody to the petitioning "friend" and V.M.L. can return.
Fuck this.
That child is American. End of story. The constitution does not have age limits. That girl, and her fucking parents, should stay.
Any other fucking argument is selfish, evil and the person who thinks it should really ask themselves how fair it would be if they were deported as a u. S citizen. Because Trump doing this, and being allowed to, now sets a precedent for removing u. S citizens. Doesn't matter her age
She's a u.s. citizen. And was deported.
A u.s. citizen. Born in this country. Was deported
And some are supporting it.
That makes those doing so Collaborators.
Supporting this fucking move is not only evil, it's self destructive and stupid.
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What usually happens if parents are deported? They stay in the US with somebody else?
This article says that authorities claim the mother wanted to take their child with them. Who knows if that’s true, but could mean the post has an inflammatory headline.
https://www.politico.com/news/2025/04/25/us-citizen-deportation-donald-trump-00311631
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Not an inflammatory headline. Completely accurate.
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Yeah. Foster system is awful.
And everyone knows that those are our only two options. No way that we could have allowed the mother to stay.
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https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781.1.0.pdf
and
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781/gov.uscourts.lawd.210781.6.0_3.pdfIndeed. If you read the actual response... no deportation occurred for the 2 year old.
From the petitioner's council:
The officer overheard and said that V.M.L. would not be deported and explained that V.M.L.’s mother and sister had deportation orders.
From ICE:
Should her mother decide to allow Petitioner Mack and the purported father to take custody of V.M.L., V.M.L. is not prohibited from entering the United States.
The claim is that the father didn't identify himself (likely because of his own immigration status), so they couldn't release child to him. Since he didn't want to identify himself, any claim that the mother wanted to take the child with her must be held, no "friend" can take custody at that point. The only identified parent isn't consenting.
It looks like there was an exhibit referenced in the ICE response document. That exhibit is likely the letter they reference that the mother wrote.
It's a shit situation... It's not good in the slightest, but it isn't "American Citizen deported".
Mother can easily state that she would like to give custody to the petitioning "friend" and V.M.L. can return.
Is there no family visa for the immediate family of a US citizen?
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“She should have been more careful about her social media posts.” -MAGAcuck
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I want all of us to say this out loud to others today
Trump deported a 2 year old American citizen
He DEPORTED a 2 year old American citizen
Fucking Hitler come back. He is.
I will say this, as fucked as he made America right now, if we didn't have what safety rails we do have, we'd be seeing executions. That guy is a monster, a criminal, traitor, and a ticking time bomb.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]He's basically Pol Pot.
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Is there no family visa for the immediate family of a US citizen?
There are. You have to apply for them. Which it's also entirely possible that the mother is currently doing.
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I want all of us to say this out loud to others today
Trump deported a 2 year old American citizen
He DEPORTED a 2 year old American citizen
Fucking Hitler come back. He is.
I will say this, as fucked as he made America right now, if we didn't have what safety rails we do have, we'd be seeing executions. That guy is a monster, a criminal, traitor, and a ticking time bomb.
It's not all on one man. One third of the country is seething with impotent, misguided rage and wants to kill at least another third of the country. None of what he has done, or will do, would be possible if this were not the case. He gives the orders, but thousands, millions of people are carrying them out.
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Just to add insult to injury: once she starts working, even if she never returns to the US... She will be required to file taxes.
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Just to add insult to injury: once she starts working, even if she never returns to the US... She will be required to file taxes.
This isn't quite true. You pay the difference of whatever local tax would cover. And foreign earned income exclusion is massive...(https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion)... So even if you make 200k, you can exclude ~120k of it, and then the remaining 80k would have your local taxes deducted from it as well. You end up finding out that most people pay virtually nothing.
And if you don't intend on returning to the USA at all, there's not a lot of enforcement that can happen. The worst effect is that you can't renew your passport at a consulate from what I've seen.
I'm a dual citizen so I end up researching these weird topics a lot...
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This isn't quite true. You pay the difference of whatever local tax would cover. And foreign earned income exclusion is massive...(https://www.irs.gov/individuals/international-taxpayers/foreign-earned-income-exclusion)... So even if you make 200k, you can exclude ~120k of it, and then the remaining 80k would have your local taxes deducted from it as well. You end up finding out that most people pay virtually nothing.
And if you don't intend on returning to the USA at all, there's not a lot of enforcement that can happen. The worst effect is that you can't renew your passport at a consulate from what I've seen.
I'm a dual citizen so I end up researching these weird topics a lot...
How are you dealing with tax returns? I have a coworker who's a dual citizen, and she tells me that she has to file through an accounting service that costs her an arm and a leg. If she weren't close to retirement, she'd renounce her US citizenship.
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How are you dealing with tax returns? I have a coworker who's a dual citizen, and she tells me that she has to file through an accounting service that costs her an arm and a leg. If she weren't close to retirement, she'd renounce her US citizenship.
I currently live in the US... so it's not directly come up for me. But it's something I've been looking into here and there because I am interested in buying property and working in my other country. Part of that is driven by my desire to interact with the majority of my family more.
My understanding is that there are firms that do it. It's the same process as most other taxes though except you can claim a couple other forms and need to declare a few additional items. I tend to do my own taxes now and get by just fine, a couple extra forms I'd likely just hire a firm to do them 1 or 2 times and use that as reference for the future personally. Taxes in general is pretty easy for most people as long as you have a reference/guide and don't do weird stuff IMO.
For renouncement I think you only have to show that you've filed taxes for the past 5 years... and as long as you're not some uber wealthy person there isn't an expat cost (I think it's like 800k on all assets? or something like that). The fee was something like $2k as well. It's not a crazy hard process to my understanding, but I could be missing a part.
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It's not all on one man. One third of the country is seething with impotent, misguided rage and wants to kill at least another third of the country. None of what he has done, or will do, would be possible if this were not the case. He gives the orders, but thousands, millions of people are carrying them out.
I won't disagree. But I will say the danger he brings is the enablement. Never have so few, doomed so many
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I currently live in the US... so it's not directly come up for me. But it's something I've been looking into here and there because I am interested in buying property and working in my other country. Part of that is driven by my desire to interact with the majority of my family more.
My understanding is that there are firms that do it. It's the same process as most other taxes though except you can claim a couple other forms and need to declare a few additional items. I tend to do my own taxes now and get by just fine, a couple extra forms I'd likely just hire a firm to do them 1 or 2 times and use that as reference for the future personally. Taxes in general is pretty easy for most people as long as you have a reference/guide and don't do weird stuff IMO.
For renouncement I think you only have to show that you've filed taxes for the past 5 years... and as long as you're not some uber wealthy person there isn't an expat cost (I think it's like 800k on all assets? or something like that). The fee was something like $2k as well. It's not a crazy hard process to my understanding, but I could be missing a part.
Don’t forget that if you renounce they publish your name on a list of people who have renounced citizenship.
Absolutely ridiculous that we are even required to file, only the US and Eritrea run a system like this.
Add onto that the US requires forms even for people resident and working in the US (rather than the tax system of most developed nations where a majority of taxpayers have their taxes deducted from their wages and everything is calculated by that country’s tax authority), and you’ve got yourself a double shitshow.
Sure it might not be the most difficult thing to do but damn it is stupid.
