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Before/After. Meaux Street, Paris.

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  • R [email protected]

    French person to the rescue.

    It's \mo\ or "m-oh".

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    Nailed it!

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      The traffic condition in my city is unbearable, streets made for 19th century carriages overflowing with parked cars. Pedestrization is going veeeery slowly, with heated resistance from people who would drive to their own bathrooms if they could.

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        would look better with flowers

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        Paris has so many flowers that there are more bees inside Paris than outside Paris.

        Although that's also because of the pesticides used outside Paris.

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          As part of her climate change plan, Paris Mayor Anne Hidalgo is pedestrianizing streets, building bike lanes, and planting trees. The goal is to reduce carbon emissions, reduce traffic noise and make the city more able to resist heat.

          She has been very aggressive and upset some car drivers. But the results are starting to pay off.

          https://english.elpais.com/lifestyle/2024-04-24/the-cycling-revolution-in-paris-continues-bicycle-use-now-exceeds-car-use.html

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          I fucking LOVE this. What an awesome humanistic policy!

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          • A [email protected]

            Who cares?

            Nobody needs a car in Paris

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            OK then I will bite.

            How do workers and tradespeople get to these places? When their refrigerator breaks and they need a repair or a new one, are those delivered on a bike?

            When someone buys a mattress, do they just helicopter them in?

            When people move into these apartments how does the furniture get moved in? Movers just carry it a full city block?

            How do plumbers and electricians bring their equipment in? How do tilers, roofers, people who replace windows get to these places?

            How do emergency services get in here? Fire trucks just dont anymore?

            I dislike traffic, congestion and poor air quality, but the idea that we don't need roads is just silly. Manage them, dont delete them. This is the folly of the bourgeois.

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              OK then I will bite.

              How do workers and tradespeople get to these places? When their refrigerator breaks and they need a repair or a new one, are those delivered on a bike?

              When someone buys a mattress, do they just helicopter them in?

              When people move into these apartments how does the furniture get moved in? Movers just carry it a full city block?

              How do plumbers and electricians bring their equipment in? How do tilers, roofers, people who replace windows get to these places?

              How do emergency services get in here? Fire trucks just dont anymore?

              I dislike traffic, congestion and poor air quality, but the idea that we don't need roads is just silly. Manage them, dont delete them. This is the folly of the bourgeois.

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              #33

              When their refrigerator breaks and they need a repair or a new one, are those delivered on a bike?

              It would be possible to deliver one via Cargo Bike yes.

              When someone buys a mattress, do they just helicopter them in?

              I don't know how you buy mattresses, but people usually get them delivered because in stores other than IKEA you get ripped off highly. But they would also fit on a cargo bike

              Also don't play dumb, nobody has something against Vehicles for Emergency Services or Tradespeople. For them there is still enough space there.

              But for individual transportation you certainly don't need one, and if you do pay for a private garage

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              • merde@sh.itjust.worksM [email protected]

                how many parking spaces are erased? 20?

                apparently, in Paris, 1 in 3 households have cars ☞ https://www.insee.fr/fr/statistiques/2012694#tableau-TCRD_001_tab1_departements

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                That's actually more than I expected but it explains the traffic.

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                  OK then I will bite.

                  How do workers and tradespeople get to these places? When their refrigerator breaks and they need a repair or a new one, are those delivered on a bike?

                  When someone buys a mattress, do they just helicopter them in?

                  When people move into these apartments how does the furniture get moved in? Movers just carry it a full city block?

                  How do plumbers and electricians bring their equipment in? How do tilers, roofers, people who replace windows get to these places?

                  How do emergency services get in here? Fire trucks just dont anymore?

                  I dislike traffic, congestion and poor air quality, but the idea that we don't need roads is just silly. Manage them, dont delete them. This is the folly of the bourgeois.

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                  One could use rentable delivery vans for furniture and companies could have cars for transporting tools and workers from a central location to where they are required. The civilians who work there can indeed just take a bus/metro/bicycle and be faster in many cases.

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                    One could use rentable delivery vans for furniture and companies could have cars for transporting tools and workers from a central location to where they are required. The civilians who work there can indeed just take a bus/metro/bicycle and be faster in many cases.

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                    Hello, this François on fantsy pants lane. Yes the one that doesn't have a road, that's it.

                    Anyway, I need 400 sq feet of ceramic tile delivered as I'm having some work done to my flat. I also need about 20 gallons of mastic and five bags of sanded grout. No, you can't drive a delivery van here, there is a shared lot two blocks away you can park at and then then the delivery people will have to bring everything from there. You won't do it? Yes I know tile is heavy. 2400 lbs? Well, dont you have a smaller delivery bike or something? Well, can't you get one? I don't understand why you're being so uncooperative!

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                      Hello, this François on fantsy pants lane. Yes the one that doesn't have a road, that's it.

                      Anyway, I need 400 sq feet of ceramic tile delivered as I'm having some work done to my flat. I also need about 20 gallons of mastic and five bags of sanded grout. No, you can't drive a delivery van here, there is a shared lot two blocks away you can park at and then then the delivery people will have to bring everything from there. You won't do it? Yes I know tile is heavy. 2400 lbs? Well, dont you have a smaller delivery bike or something? Well, can't you get one? I don't understand why you're being so uncooperative!

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                      I've seen wheelbarrows used for that kind of thing. It's not like you could drive into the house anyways. The distances to the road portrayed in the image look quite reasonable. If one has no roads it becomes an issue if there is no replacement. For personal transit there are plenty of alternatives in cities. Pedestrian roads that can be opened to vehicles as exceptions also seem like a good compromise. I don't know where you would ride a bike if there's no road either. Some cities I've been to have bike lanes wide enough to fit cars too.

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