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Both District of Columbus and Colombia are named after Cristobal Colon (Christopher Columbus) Does anyone know why they're spelled differently?

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    Last names weren't really a thing until very recently in human history.

    That's why a lot of last names are places or jobs.

    You were Chris the Farmer, or Chris from Cleveland. And when your king wanted a last name to tax you more accurately, you likely didn't give a fuck and just said whatever.

    But the thing is people would say names/jobs in different languages.

    An immigrant from Germany who spoke mostly German would say "My name is John Deutsch". if they were fluent in English they may say "My name is John German".

    Same guy. Describing himself the same way, just in two different languages.

    Fo Colombus specifically, that's not even his name in his native language. It was Columbo, which meant Dove and given mostly to orphans, but at least his dad had the same name. Whenever last names became standard, Columbus's oldest living direct ancestor was an orphan

    So like, it's not asking why just the places named after him are different, it's why he had different names.

    And the answer is people just really didn't care that much about names until very recently.

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      There are even more versions:

      Colombia
      Columbia
      Colón
      Colombo
      Columbus
      Colomb
      Colom

      Places were usually named by settlers according to the rules of their own language. Columbus is the Latin variant, Colón is Spanish, Colombo Italian.

      Back in 15th-16th century translating personal names was common.
      The practice is still continues with monarchs today, see popes - John Paul ll was also Iohannes Paulus, Juan Pablo, Ivan Pavao ...

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        First of all his name wasn't even Christopher lol.

        The original Spanish name of Christopher Columbus is Cristóbal Colón, that's why it's the name they honored him

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          First of all his name wasn't even Christopher lol.

          The original Spanish name of Christopher Columbus is Cristóbal Colón, that's why it's the name they honored him

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          He wasn't Spanish. That was just his name translated from Italian into Spanish. Cristoforo Colombo.

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            There are even more versions:

            Colombia
            Columbia
            Colón
            Colombo
            Columbus
            Colomb
            Colom

            Places were usually named by settlers according to the rules of their own language. Columbus is the Latin variant, Colón is Spanish, Colombo Italian.

            Back in 15th-16th century translating personal names was common.
            The practice is still continues with monarchs today, see popes - John Paul ll was also Iohannes Paulus, Juan Pablo, Ivan Pavao ...

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            See now I'm curious how Sri Lanka's capital city got its name.

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              They're not the same person, district of Columbia is named after the female personification of the United States, Columbia.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_(personification)

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                It's because people associate colons with butt holes.

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                  They're not the same person, district of Columbia is named after the female personification of the United States, Columbia.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_(personification)

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                  If only we knew where she got her name...

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                    There are even more versions:

                    Colombia
                    Columbia
                    Colón
                    Colombo
                    Columbus
                    Colomb
                    Colom

                    Places were usually named by settlers according to the rules of their own language. Columbus is the Latin variant, Colón is Spanish, Colombo Italian.

                    Back in 15th-16th century translating personal names was common.
                    The practice is still continues with monarchs today, see popes - John Paul ll was also Iohannes Paulus, Juan Pablo, Ivan Pavao ...

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                    Never realized Pablo = Paul. Neat!

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                      If only we knew where she got her name...

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                      It's very clear where she got her name, but it's the reason for the difference in spelling.

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                        They're not the same person, district of Columbia is named after the female personification of the United States, Columbia.

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_(personification)

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                        Oh. Thanks. Did not know that.

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                          They're not the same person, district of Columbia is named after the female personification of the United States, Columbia.

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_(personification)

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                          "Columbia The Gem Of The Ocean" was almost the national anthem.

                          EDIT: One of its lyrics was "thy banners make tyranny tremble." That wouldn't work today, would it, considering we are under, well, tyranny.

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                            There are even more versions:

                            Colombia
                            Columbia
                            Colón
                            Colombo
                            Columbus
                            Colomb
                            Colom

                            Places were usually named by settlers according to the rules of their own language. Columbus is the Latin variant, Colón is Spanish, Colombo Italian.

                            Back in 15th-16th century translating personal names was common.
                            The practice is still continues with monarchs today, see popes - John Paul ll was also Iohannes Paulus, Juan Pablo, Ivan Pavao ...

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                            Colombia
                            Columbia
                            Colón
                            Colombo
                            Columbus
                            Colomb
                            Colom

                            Uhhhh... Just one more spelling, Sir, if you don't mind...

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                              He wasn't Spanish. That was just his name translated from Italian into Spanish. Cristoforo Colombo.

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                              I know but the question he asked matches the spanish name. Maybe some spanish influence in the naming.

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