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I don't like there being forums set to 'public' on open platforms that then say if you aren't in a specific demographic then you aren't allowed to comment.

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  • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

    It is a request in the sidebar/bottom of the page

    It's a pinned post:

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    When I click on a post out of the All or Subscribed feed I don't go to the main community page.

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    • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

      The rules are not displayed in the All feed. Some specific communities are still welcoming of people who are not the topic being discussed.

      When you click a post, the rules might be hidden or at the bottom of the page. Do you take the effort to read all of the rules before posting in every community on the All feed?

      Do you take the time before voting, since some communities have banned down voting?

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      When you click a post, the rules might be hidden or at the bottom of the page.

      It's literally the topmost rule of the sidebar. If your client doesn't display the sidebar properly, that's on you and your choice of client. Default lemmy-ui displays it just fine.

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      • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

        When I click on a post out of the All or Subscribed feed I don't go to the main community page.

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        When I click on a post out of the All or Subscribed feed I don’t go to the main community page.

        It's literally the topmost rule of the sidebar. If your client doesn't display the sidebar properly, that's on you and your choice of client. Default lemmy-ui displays it just fine.

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        • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

          It is a request in the sidebar/bottom of the page

          It's a pinned post:

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          #15

          Which doesn't appear in anyone's feed, you only see that when you specifically go to that community's page. Which is yet another clear factor in why it should be set to private instead of public

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          • B [email protected]

            Which doesn't appear in anyone's feed, you only see that when you specifically go to that community's page. Which is yet another clear factor in why it should be set to private instead of public

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            Which doesn’t appear in anyone’s feed, you only see that when you specifically go to that community’s page. Which is yet another clear factor in why it should be set to private instead of public

            If Fedia has a broken GUI, that's not their responsibility. It's the responsibility of All feed users not to badly interact with random posts.

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            • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

              When you click a post, the rules might be hidden or at the bottom of the page.

              It's literally the topmost rule of the sidebar. If your client doesn't display the sidebar properly, that's on you and your choice of client. Default lemmy-ui displays it just fine.

              spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS This user is from outside of this forum
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              I guess you haven't ever used lemmy on a phone or in a narrow window on PC where it is hidden until you click a button to show the sidebar?

              I squished it to about a third of my desktop to make it switch from side to button. It is a button on mobile for me both in portrait and landscape.
              screenshot of the sidebar button

              Plus if you click on the comments indicator it scrolls down to the top comment underneath the button, so you have to scroll up to click it to expand.

              I'm just saying it isn't always directly in the user's face when they interact with a post and expecting everyone to double check the rules every comment is a bit silly of an expectation.

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              • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                Remembering all the rules of a massive number of communities takes effort.

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                And yet, you manage to live in society.

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                  Keeping it open means people can find it, and it only excludes men from participating. WomensStuff accepts NBs and transwomen and basically anyone who doesn't identify as a man. Just because it's not for men doesn't mean it's private.

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                  • B [email protected]

                    It’s an extremely simple request that literally requires zero work to honor.

                    It literally requires every single person currently on the fediverse to actively block it. And it requires every single new person that arrives in the fediverse to learn about this group, learn about their rule, learn how to block a group, and then go ahead and block it. Everyone who comes here has to do that, for every single new user that joins the fediverse. Forever.

                    There is no downside.

                    There are tons of downsides. All the previously mentioned work, plus all the people who post there and then get reprimanded for it, which causes unpleasant feelings, making people feel excluded from the public space of the fediverse that we want people to feel welcome at, etc i really could keep listing more downsides.

                    Keeping it open and easy to find means higher engagement for the community and greater visibility on a safe, inclusive space for women.

                    No, it's the opposite of that. Keeping it open to people who actually aren't supposed to engage with the content means it's always going to be a muddled antagonistic mess.

                    Feels like an easy w to me.

                    Feels like an unforced loss for everyone to me.

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                    It literally requires every single person currently on the fediverse to actively block it. And it requires every single new person that arrives in the fediverse to learn about this group, learn about their rule, learn how to block a group, and then go ahead and block it. Everyone who comes here has to do that, for every single new user that joins the fediverse. Forever.

                    The community only excludes men from participating

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                    • N [email protected]

                      It literally requires every single person currently on the fediverse to actively block it. And it requires every single new person that arrives in the fediverse to learn about this group, learn about their rule, learn how to block a group, and then go ahead and block it. Everyone who comes here has to do that, for every single new user that joins the fediverse. Forever.

                      The community only excludes men from participating

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                      Bro is absolutely sick to his stomach and vomiting that this one community isn’t specifically designed for him and that people might have to * gulp * read the sidebar.

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                      • N [email protected]

                        It literally requires every single person currently on the fediverse to actively block it. And it requires every single new person that arrives in the fediverse to learn about this group, learn about their rule, learn how to block a group, and then go ahead and block it. Everyone who comes here has to do that, for every single new user that joins the fediverse. Forever.

                        The community only excludes men from participating

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                        #22

                        Seriously, that's your retort? Ok fine, I'll rephrase.

                        It literally requires about half of every single person currently on the fediverse to actively block it. And it requires about half of every single new person that arrives in the fediverse to learn about this group, learn about their rule, learn how to block a group, and then go ahead and block it. About half of everyone who comes here has to do that, for about half of every single new user that joins the fediverse. Forever.

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                          That would be the case if it was private but it's not. I assume the purpose is to allow for visibility on the conversations happening in women's spaces. If you only care to listen to conversations you can be a part of, hide the community.

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                            Keeping it open means people can find it, and it only excludes men from participating. WomensStuff accepts NBs and transwomen and basically anyone who doesn't identify as a man. Just because it's not for men doesn't mean it's private.

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                            #24

                            In terms of how platforms work, a forum is either set to 'public' for everyone, or set to 'private' if you want to control who interacts with a forum

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                            • B [email protected]

                              In terms of how platforms work, a forum is either set to 'public' for everyone, or set to 'private' if you want to control who interacts with a forum

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                              Setting it to private would limit its discoverability for people who are welcome to contribute, which as you say, is about half of all people. Some people like to lurk and read without posting which is perfectly fine and even welcomed. It's not a private forum, it's a forum that just asks men not to post.

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                                And yet, you manage to live in society.

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                                Yes, and trying to remember all of those rules also takes more than zero effort. I regularly forget those rules too!

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                                • spankmonkey@lemmy.worldS [email protected]

                                  I guess you haven't ever used lemmy on a phone or in a narrow window on PC where it is hidden until you click a button to show the sidebar?

                                  I squished it to about a third of my desktop to make it switch from side to button. It is a button on mobile for me both in portrait and landscape.
                                  screenshot of the sidebar button

                                  Plus if you click on the comments indicator it scrolls down to the top comment underneath the button, so you have to scroll up to click it to expand.

                                  I'm just saying it isn't always directly in the user's face when they interact with a post and expecting everyone to double check the rules every comment is a bit silly of an expectation.

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                                  I guess you haven’t ever used lemmy on a phone or in a narrow window on PC where it is hidden until you click a button to show the sidebar?

                                  I'm grown up enough to just use the Subscribed feed, so I don't even get posts not targeted at me, and I also am fully able to look up the rules from mobile devices. If that's such a hassle for you, you're unsuited for federated platforms where you have to accept to encounter a plethora of rules and posts not targeted at you.

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                                    It’s an extremely simple request that literally requires zero work to honor. There is no downside. Keeping it open and easy to find means higher engagement for the community and greater visibility on a safe, inclusive space for women. Feels like an easy w to me.

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                                    literally requires zero work to honor.

                                    No true at all. I must at minimum perform the work to stay attentive to the community and its unique rules.

                                    Most community rules can be narrowed down to "don't be a dick" while a women's only community also requires one to not have a dick or have one but be transitioning away from having one.

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                                    • woelkchen@lemmy.worldW [email protected]

                                      I guess you haven’t ever used lemmy on a phone or in a narrow window on PC where it is hidden until you click a button to show the sidebar?

                                      I'm grown up enough to just use the Subscribed feed, so I don't even get posts not targeted at me, and I also am fully able to look up the rules from mobile devices. If that's such a hassle for you, you're unsuited for federated platforms where you have to accept to encounter a plethora of rules and posts not targeted at you.

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                                      I'm grown up enough to just use the Subscribed feed

                                      L. O. L.

                                      If you have to tell people you're a grown up because you do something a specific way, or imply that you'd be a child to think or act differently than you do: you're not a grown up at all, you're a child in an oversized skin suit.

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                                      • M [email protected]

                                        It’s an extremely simple request that literally requires zero work to honor. There is no downside. Keeping it open and easy to find means higher engagement for the community and greater visibility on a safe, inclusive space for women. Feels like an easy w to me.

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                                        Have to click the community, and know to check the sidebar, oh fuck are we back on reddit

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                                          Bro is absolutely sick to his stomach and vomiting that this one community isn’t specifically designed for him and that people might have to * gulp * read the sidebar.

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                                          Yay I love reddit like rules, were so back

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