I don't like there being forums set to 'public' on open platforms that then say if you aren't in a specific demographic then you aren't allowed to comment.
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Keeping it open means people can find it, and it only excludes men from participating. WomensStuff accepts NBs and transwomen and basically anyone who doesn't identify as a man. Just because it's not for men doesn't mean it's private.
In terms of how platforms work, a forum is either set to 'public' for everyone, or set to 'private' if you want to control who interacts with a forum
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In terms of how platforms work, a forum is either set to 'public' for everyone, or set to 'private' if you want to control who interacts with a forum
Setting it to private would limit its discoverability for people who are welcome to contribute, which as you say, is about half of all people. Some people like to lurk and read without posting which is perfectly fine and even welcomed. It's not a private forum, it's a forum that just asks men not to post.
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And yet, you manage to live in society.
Yes, and trying to remember all of those rules also takes more than zero effort. I regularly forget those rules too!
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I guess you haven't ever used lemmy on a phone or in a narrow window on PC where it is hidden until you click a button to show the sidebar?
I squished it to about a third of my desktop to make it switch from side to button. It is a button on mobile for me both in portrait and landscape.
Plus if you click on the comments indicator it scrolls down to the top comment underneath the button, so you have to scroll up to click it to expand.
I'm just saying it isn't always directly in the user's face when they interact with a post and expecting everyone to double check the rules every comment is a bit silly of an expectation.
I guess you haven’t ever used lemmy on a phone or in a narrow window on PC where it is hidden until you click a button to show the sidebar?
I'm grown up enough to just use the Subscribed feed, so I don't even get posts not targeted at me, and I also am fully able to look up the rules from mobile devices. If that's such a hassle for you, you're unsuited for federated platforms where you have to accept to encounter a plethora of rules and posts not targeted at you.
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It’s an extremely simple request that literally requires zero work to honor. There is no downside. Keeping it open and easy to find means higher engagement for the community and greater visibility on a safe, inclusive space for women. Feels like an easy w to me.
literally requires zero work to honor.
No true at all. I must at minimum perform the work to stay attentive to the community and its unique rules.
Most community rules can be narrowed down to "don't be a dick" while a women's only community also requires one to not have a dick or have one but be transitioning away from having one.
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I guess you haven’t ever used lemmy on a phone or in a narrow window on PC where it is hidden until you click a button to show the sidebar?
I'm grown up enough to just use the Subscribed feed, so I don't even get posts not targeted at me, and I also am fully able to look up the rules from mobile devices. If that's such a hassle for you, you're unsuited for federated platforms where you have to accept to encounter a plethora of rules and posts not targeted at you.
I'm grown up enough to just use the Subscribed feed
L. O. L.
If you have to tell people you're a grown up because you do something a specific way, or imply that you'd be a child to think or act differently than you do: you're not a grown up at all, you're a child in an oversized skin suit.
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It’s an extremely simple request that literally requires zero work to honor. There is no downside. Keeping it open and easy to find means higher engagement for the community and greater visibility on a safe, inclusive space for women. Feels like an easy w to me.
Have to click the community, and know to check the sidebar, oh fuck are we back on reddit
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Bro is absolutely sick to his stomach and vomiting that this one community isn’t specifically designed for him and that people might have to * gulp * read the sidebar.
Yay I love reddit like rules, were so back
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literally requires zero work to honor.
No true at all. I must at minimum perform the work to stay attentive to the community and its unique rules.
Most community rules can be narrowed down to "don't be a dick" while a women's only community also requires one to not have a dick or have one but be transitioning away from having one.
The best part is that the second rule of
[email protected] is:Don’t be a dick. No personal attacks, no aggression, play nice.
And apparently they moved because I had blocked the one on lazy.social and haven't come across the new one. So even blocking to avoid accidentally breaking rules doesn't always work.
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I guess you haven’t ever used lemmy on a phone or in a narrow window on PC where it is hidden until you click a button to show the sidebar?
I'm grown up enough to just use the Subscribed feed, so I don't even get posts not targeted at me, and I also am fully able to look up the rules from mobile devices. If that's such a hassle for you, you're unsuited for federated platforms where you have to accept to encounter a plethora of rules and posts not targeted at you.
TIL: I'm not a grown up because I use the all feed instead of subscribing to specific communities.
Damn that's tough.
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This opinion is foolish. Just block it if you dont like it.
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How can the 50 percent of new users who should be women find a private-only forum? Feel free to block, no hard feelings.
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How can the 50 percent of new users who should be women find a private-only forum? Feel free to block, no hard feelings.
Lots of ways. If they're interested in women-only topics then all they have to do is goto the searchbar and type "women". And the community mods can even set the community's post visibility to public and set the allowed commenters to approved users only. And a bunch of other possible setups too. Basically the only bad way to do it is to set the forum to public, and then tell the entirety of the fediverse they have to treat it like it's actually set to private
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Not everything is about you, champ.
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Not everything is about you, champ.
Hey "champ", i never said it was. I said that the way forums work is that if you set your community to appear in All, then that community is supposed to be for all
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The best part is that the second rule of
[email protected] is:Don’t be a dick. No personal attacks, no aggression, play nice.
And apparently they moved because I had blocked the one on lazy.social and haven't come across the new one. So even blocking to avoid accidentally breaking rules doesn't always work.
Guess what? If you accidentally break the rules, the mods will helpfully remove the comment and send you a polite reminder! You won't even lose karma over it because there is no karma! At worst you'll experience something women often do in real life: having your voice dismissed.
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Lots of ways. If they're interested in women-only topics then all they have to do is goto the searchbar and type "women". And the community mods can even set the community's post visibility to public and set the allowed commenters to approved users only. And a bunch of other possible setups too. Basically the only bad way to do it is to set the forum to public, and then tell the entirety of the fediverse they have to treat it like it's actually set to private
Jesus, guys, the rule is apparently just like the clitoris: FRONT AND CENTER BUT INVISIBLE!?!?
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The sidebar also says "this is an inclusive community" followed by a rule that excludes 50% of the planet.
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Guess what? If you accidentally break the rules, the mods will helpfully remove the comment and send you a polite reminder! You won't even lose karma over it because there is no karma! At worst you'll experience something women often do in real life: having your voice dismissed.
wrote last edited by [email protected]I think it is hilarious that they have a don't be a dick rule, it is completely on point. Thank you for the smug explanation about karma that has nothing to do with what we are talking about!
My lamentation for not having built in tools to allow them or myself to manage participation short of blocks and bans is about the lack of tools. There are settings to limit who can post, but as far as I know there aren't tools to limit participation short of a ban or block. Heck, I would love the ability to set notes that display for me about communities or users as reminders because I would add notes about not commenting or not down voting for the communities that have that as a rule but also have content I want to see.
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I guess you haven’t ever used lemmy on a phone or in a narrow window on PC where it is hidden until you click a button to show the sidebar?
I'm grown up enough to just use the Subscribed feed, so I don't even get posts not targeted at me, and I also am fully able to look up the rules from mobile devices. If that's such a hassle for you, you're unsuited for federated platforms where you have to accept to encounter a plethora of rules and posts not targeted at you.
Do you mean this setting that I have set 99% of the time and I only temporarily switch to All once every couple of weeks to see if any new communities catch my interest?
That setting, right there? Guess I'm an adult except when I'm not!
