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Researchers surprised to find less-educated areas adopting AI writing tools faster

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    'researchers surprised people that don't know how to do a thing cheat to use half baked tools to do the thing for them.'

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      People bad at math use calculators. People with bad handwriting prefer to type. Weak people use levers. Slow people rely more on wheels. Its like were a bunch of tool using primates or something.

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        Professional writing was always fake. And this just proves it more.

        I hate how increasingly we will be forced to take patronizing AI slop at face value.

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          Even before the AI fad, services like Grammarly were surprising to me. So... you're marketing to non-readers, and people who want to sound better in written communication... without learning to write better... Huh. My current employment has very little formal writing as part of it, yet I still think learning how to effectively communicate is absolutely vital for any job, or at least for getting a better one...

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            Even before the AI fad, services like Grammarly were surprising to me. So... you're marketing to non-readers, and people who want to sound better in written communication... without learning to write better... Huh. My current employment has very little formal writing as part of it, yet I still think learning how to effectively communicate is absolutely vital for any job, or at least for getting a better one...

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            Funny that you emphasized this word, which has become such a tell of ChatGPT (along with "delve" and "crucial").

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              Funny that you emphasized this word, which has become such a tell of ChatGPT (along with "delve" and "crucial").

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              Are you... accusing me of being a bot?

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              • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                Professional writing was always fake. And this just proves it more.

                I hate how increasingly we will be forced to take patronizing AI slop at face value.

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                Professional writing was always fake.

                I don't even know what that means. You mean that professional authors use spell-checkers or something?

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                  vital

                  Funny that you emphasized this word, which has become such a tell of ChatGPT (along with "delve" and "crucial").

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                  How are you such an expert on ChatGPT? Sus

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                  • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                    Professional writing was always fake. And this just proves it more.

                    I hate how increasingly we will be forced to take patronizing AI slop at face value.

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                    How are journalists, novelists, researchers, etc fake?

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                      Are you... accusing me of being a bot?

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                      No, they just said it was funny, given the context.

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                      • paraphrand@lemmy.worldP [email protected]

                        Professional writing was always fake. And this just proves it more.

                        I hate how increasingly we will be forced to take patronizing AI slop at face value.

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                        Are you talking about corporate jargon? Intentionally vague and used by people to try to sound smart. I always ask what someone means when they use it because they could have just used clear and normal language.

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                          vital

                          Funny that you emphasized this word, which has become such a tell of ChatGPT (along with "delve" and "crucial").

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                          —Elevate—

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                            How are journalists, novelists, researchers, etc fake?

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                            Sorry, I was focused in on professional communication. All those emails sent by bosses that feign interest or care. All necessary niceties that can grate on someone once they know many are just masks.

                            I wasn’t being precise, and I assumed others wouldn’t think about it in such broad terms. I agree that my statement would be silly if it applied to all writing that people get paid for.

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                            • tal@lemmy.todayT [email protected]

                              Professional writing was always fake.

                              I don't even know what that means. You mean that professional authors use spell-checkers or something?

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                              I said more in another comment, but I mean stuff like email. The thing companies like Apple are showing ads on TV for.

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                                Are you talking about corporate jargon? Intentionally vague and used by people to try to sound smart. I always ask what someone means when they use it because they could have just used clear and normal language.

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                                I appreciate that someone could tell I didn’t mean to be super broad.

                                Jargon definitely falls under the umbrella I was pointing at. Communication among co-workers. Managers. Etc.

                                The whole style feels cold to me. And impersonal. And I hate it. Jargon can definitely play a role. But I’m also ok with certain types that actually do make communication flow smoother. But yeah, the vapid jargon that masks a lack of understanding, curiosity or humility is a bummer.

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                                  I'm surprised that researchers are surprised at all.

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                                    No, they just said it was funny, given the context.

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                                    But was it funny?

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                                      I always use AI to write texts.

                                      I am to fucking lazy to write more than keywords 😆.

                                      I let it format into a proper text and tell it what it should adjust. That is one task AI is very good in (way better than myself).

                                      For me, it is the faster approach, but I always tend to write with enormous information density (which is disliked by many people somehow) anyway.

                                      I personally prefer the shortest wording with most information to read, so I sometimes let AI summarise.

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                                        Even before the AI fad, services like Grammarly were surprising to me. So... you're marketing to non-readers, and people who want to sound better in written communication... without learning to write better... Huh. My current employment has very little formal writing as part of it, yet I still think learning how to effectively communicate is absolutely vital for any job, or at least for getting a better one...

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                                        I have also seen a video discussing that Grammarly often makes mistakes because it doesn't understand context and nuance as much as a human would.

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                                          Surprised? Just yesterday got banned from one TG group.

                                          I commented under a post, its author, ignoring the contents except for the first sentence, wrote that I seem snobbish and talking down so could I please change my writing style. I explained why I won't change my writing style, but made a big effort for it to be friendly and substantiated - that, first, they could specify what should be replaced with what, and second, not when that impedes meaning.

                                          They answered with a ChatGPT response which was gibberish (with such emotion as if that were obvious authority), I answered with a cool article called "GPT in 500 lines" explaining basics of how that works, and also why that gibberish is wrong, in detail. They and a few others ignored everything I said and kept repeating their opinion. Then I wrote one comment with tone becoming a bit closer to theirs noting that they use long smart words incorrectly and don't seem to know how logic works (except for the word itself). Then I got banned.

                                          The scariest thing is - this happened in a TG group for autistic people. Supposedly those least likely to behave in such way. I sometimes forget that autistic people can be dumb or trying to replace intellect with intrigue.

                                          So I'm not surprised, uneducated people would find what to copy-paste before, - "look, that's my opinion written by someone in the Internet, this means I'm right, I won, hahaha", - and now they ask GPT bots for responses.

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