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'Like a sound from hell': Was an illegal sonic weapon used against peaceful protesters in Serbia?

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      Why is there no sound recording?

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        Why is there no sound recording?

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        Maybe it's a tone above hearing levels like a heavy tinitus attack in your hearing membrane.

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          Why is there no sound recording?

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          There is. Watch the video. That noise isn't just the crowd screaming.

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            It's in the video. Is it not there anymore in the article?

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              Does anyone know if noise cancelling works against or diminishes this sound?

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                Does anyone know if noise cancelling works against or diminishes this sound?

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                I would think it provides some protection.

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                  This just in: wearing noise canceling headphones to a protest is now illegal.

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                    Absolutely not 🤦‍♂️

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                      No, your airpods will not protect you from this. Not only will the sheer volume of sound overwhelm their tiny ANC speakers, but sonic weapons affect more than just the eardrum. They can affect your heart, lungs, and other organs.

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                        I am from neighbouring Croatia, I fully despise their government and leader Vučić, a lot of fake hateful propaganda towards Croatia, a lot of corruption in their country. I hope they succeed in renewing their country and improve institutions.

                        Craziest part is that Vučić claims no such weapons were used during moments of silence and corrupt doctors claim no people arrived at hospital with symptoms from attack.
                        Absolutely discusting lies that makes everyone who knows justice wanna act furiosly.

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                          Why is there no sound recording?

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                          There is, you just can't hear the weapon in the footage of the attack on the vigil.

                          In the same way that human ears can't hear much of the noise happening around them, we wouldn't be able to hear recordings of the weapon in use because it's ultrasonic. Picture a literal dog whistle and our inability to hear it despite it fully capturing a canine's attention, except as a restricted military-grade weapon for injuring and dispersing crowds.

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                            I'll just leave this here

                            https://youtu.be/CXKTBQBugIA

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                              No, the sound is transmitted through the body rather than just via the auditory system in such a way that simply plugging or covering your ears will provide no protection from the effect. As analogy, imagine the effect of a train whistle or jet engine on someone who's within 1-25 ft., but 100% deaf. It wouldn't need to be heard by their ears per se as it would be so powerful as to be transmitted into the target's body, which would reacts accordingly to a 100+ decibel sound.

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                                There is. Watch the video. That noise isn't just the crowd screaming.

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                                I watched the original video when it dropped but couldn't discern any sound from the weapon itself. Watch the clip here - the crowd reacts at the 0:07 mark without any discernible loud sound, although it was described by victims as "being like a train whistle" (i.e. excruciatingly loud and panic-inducing).

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                                  No, your airpods will not protect you from this. Not only will the sheer volume of sound overwhelm their tiny ANC speakers, but sonic weapons affect more than just the eardrum. They can affect your heart, lungs, and other organs.

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                                  Exact right, as it's untrasonic, the sound is transmitted directly through the target's body. Noise canceling earphones/plugs will have no protective effect whatsoever.

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                                    Why the inquisitive tone? I understand that the AP is aiming to be non-partisan, but FFS it was clearly an LRAD. Video and victim accounts line up with previous available material about the weapons. Add to that the photographs of LRADs deployed to the area at the time of the incident - this isn't some Sherlock Holmes mystery, if there's another entirely different weapon which can spur widespread, instant crowd panic without making a sound then I'm all ears, because I've never heard of it. Re-linking footage of the attack from URL used in other comment. Watch the crowd of hundreds reacting to nothing observable at the 0:07 mark

                                    "When presented with photos of the device mounted on an off-road vehicle and deployed at the rally of hundreds of thousands of protesters, officials admitted possessing a sonic weapon, but insisted it was not used against the protesters."

                                    Liars.

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                                      I'll just leave this here

                                      https://youtu.be/CXKTBQBugIA

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                                      Now we're talking.

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                                        I watched a video after this happened where a guy was testing defenses. He tried what he called electric headphones that I'm guessing are noise canceling, and they made it worse. Best defense was ear muffs and a riot shield.

                                        Video:
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                                          Why the inquisitive tone? I understand that the AP is aiming to be non-partisan, but FFS it was clearly an LRAD. Video and victim accounts line up with previous available material about the weapons. Add to that the photographs of LRADs deployed to the area at the time of the incident - this isn't some Sherlock Holmes mystery, if there's another entirely different weapon which can spur widespread, instant crowd panic without making a sound then I'm all ears, because I've never heard of it. Re-linking footage of the attack from URL used in other comment. Watch the crowd of hundreds reacting to nothing observable at the 0:07 mark

                                          "When presented with photos of the device mounted on an off-road vehicle and deployed at the rally of hundreds of thousands of protesters, officials admitted possessing a sonic weapon, but insisted it was not used against the protesters."

                                          Liars.

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                                          Fuck that. You just know that as soon as they were issued the weapon, the entire department drew lots to see who got to use the shiny toy on protesters first.

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