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    Kanban probably.

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      With 30years delay

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        Slavery?

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        Not so much, ackchually.

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          They used a nine day work week, and a shitload of middle class tradesmen.

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            Slavery?

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            The current understanding is actually that the builders would have been paid.

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              Rockstar [property] developers.

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                The current understanding is actually that the builders would have been paid.

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                Egyptian labor unions lol

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                  The current understanding is actually that the builders would have been paid.

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                  In just enough beer to survive their next shift

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                    The current understanding is actually that the builders would have been paid.

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                    Well then probably paid from the profits of slavery. That much labor could not have been cheap.

                    Also I imagine they had divisions of labor. The guys who knew how to calculate the angle of the triangle or artisans who could shape the stone were probably not the same guys pushing rocks.

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                      Well then probably paid from the profits of slavery. That much labor could not have been cheap.

                      Also I imagine they had divisions of labor. The guys who knew how to calculate the angle of the triangle or artisans who could shape the stone were probably not the same guys pushing rocks.

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                      Depending on how exactly you draw the line on 'slavery'... maybe? Kinda?

                      For the Great Pyramid, the current approximate consenus is that it was basically a corvee labor system for a large amount of the population of Egypt.

                      Basically, when the farmers were all in their off season, they'd be drafted for a number of months a year to aid construction as general laborers.

                      They were housed, fed, and paid for this, by the state/royal coffers.

                      They were paid in material goods like foodstuffs, as currency in the way we think of it wasn't really a thing at the time.

                      And yes, they absolutely did have divisions of labor, they had basically nobility or psuedo nobilility people who could largely read and write as trained architects and engineers and mathematicians and record keepers and accountants, and had a whole slew of the craftsmen / stone mason class below them.

                      So... it is forced labor, you couldn't really opt out, but you would be compensated.

                      Egypt did have roughly chattel slaves at the time, they probably participated as well, but they are estimated to be about 10% of the total population of Egypt at the time.

                      (Compare this to say, 1st century AD/CE Rome, where I think the estimate is more like roughly 20-30% being slaves)

                      There is also the religious component: It is likely that many of the drafted laborers viewed this as a privilege or sacred duty to construct the tomb of their living god-king, who they would have believed became essentially immortal, his spirit would be preserved for eternity, as a consequence of their work.

                      So maybe think of it as an extremely intensive mission trip to go build shelters for the needy, as a rough analogue to modernity... it was some kind of good, moral, holy thing to do.

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                        With 30years delay

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                        So not much difference to corporate IT projects

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                          Rockstar [property] developers.

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                          Now, if the game developer Rockstar made them, they'd look like a dick and two balls instead of just 3 pyramid shaped pyramids.

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                            Those are the reasons we'll never build anything like that again.

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                              Well then probably paid from the profits of slavery. That much labor could not have been cheap.

                              Also I imagine they had divisions of labor. The guys who knew how to calculate the angle of the triangle or artisans who could shape the stone were probably not the same guys pushing rocks.

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                              So, just like us right now?

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                                Evolution over revolution: the best to ever come into existence was the human. And nobody ever used kanban for it

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                                  Depending on how exactly you draw the line on 'slavery'... maybe? Kinda?

                                  For the Great Pyramid, the current approximate consenus is that it was basically a corvee labor system for a large amount of the population of Egypt.

                                  Basically, when the farmers were all in their off season, they'd be drafted for a number of months a year to aid construction as general laborers.

                                  They were housed, fed, and paid for this, by the state/royal coffers.

                                  They were paid in material goods like foodstuffs, as currency in the way we think of it wasn't really a thing at the time.

                                  And yes, they absolutely did have divisions of labor, they had basically nobility or psuedo nobilility people who could largely read and write as trained architects and engineers and mathematicians and record keepers and accountants, and had a whole slew of the craftsmen / stone mason class below them.

                                  So... it is forced labor, you couldn't really opt out, but you would be compensated.

                                  Egypt did have roughly chattel slaves at the time, they probably participated as well, but they are estimated to be about 10% of the total population of Egypt at the time.

                                  (Compare this to say, 1st century AD/CE Rome, where I think the estimate is more like roughly 20-30% being slaves)

                                  There is also the religious component: It is likely that many of the drafted laborers viewed this as a privilege or sacred duty to construct the tomb of their living god-king, who they would have believed became essentially immortal, his spirit would be preserved for eternity, as a consequence of their work.

                                  So maybe think of it as an extremely intensive mission trip to go build shelters for the needy, as a rough analogue to modernity... it was some kind of good, moral, holy thing to do.

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                                  To: All Staff

                                  From: HR

                                  Subject: EXCITING new partnership!

                                  Team, we've been reviewing some of history's most successful large-scale projects for inspiration, and the data is clear! The absolute best results came from teams who believed their CEO was literally a god.

                                  While we can't quite arrange that, we've found the next best thing!

                                  After a productive meeting, we've received a special clarification directly from the Vatican! Turns out, Colossians 3:23 ("Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord") is now considered binding corporate policy.

                                  So, effective immediately, hitting your quarterly goals is a direct path to salvation. Slacking off... well, let's just say the paperwork for eternal damnation is a real hassle for everyone involved.

                                  Let's get to work, saints!

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                                    They didn't have Jira, that's how.

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                                      Egyptian labor unions lol

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                                      I remember reading about pyramid workers going on strike to request a higher make-up quota.

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                                        To: All Staff

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                                        Subject: EXCITING new partnership!

                                        Team, we've been reviewing some of history's most successful large-scale projects for inspiration, and the data is clear! The absolute best results came from teams who believed their CEO was literally a god.

                                        While we can't quite arrange that, we've found the next best thing!

                                        After a productive meeting, we've received a special clarification directly from the Vatican! Turns out, Colossians 3:23 ("Whatever you do, work at it with all your heart, as working for the Lord") is now considered binding corporate policy.

                                        So, effective immediately, hitting your quarterly goals is a direct path to salvation. Slacking off... well, let's just say the paperwork for eternal damnation is a real hassle for everyone involved.

                                        Let's get to work, saints!

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                                        I realize this is a joke, and it did elicit a good chuckle from me, but I have two technical sort of nit picks / factoids.

                                        As I understand these things:

                                        To the vast majority of Catholics, the Pope is not literally a god-king, who becomes basically a minor god oh his physical death, or just literally is onenof the greater gods made incarate... the Pope is God's chosen representative on Earth, sort of like a more formalized version of many Old Testament prophets, who also leads God's church.

                                        Also... the Amish, the Mennonites... they very much do have as part of their culture, which very much revolves around religion... that you more or less are a expected to, and by this cement that you are a good person of faith and character, that you help others by participating, often regularly, in work-gangs, to stand up at least the basics of barn or house, in what is a shockingly short amount of time, and done in a very high quality manner, with less technologically advanced tools than what is normal for others.

                                        Seriously, if you've never seen this, go look up something like Amish Barn Raising on youtube.

                                        They start with basically just raw materials, assemble large parts of the framing, stand em up with just ropes, set up and join the whole thing, get the outer walls and roof on and doors on, in under a a single work day.

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                                          Or forecast projections. Uhhhhh what does that even mean!

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