What features are missing from piefed, or, why aren't we reccommending piefed instead of lemmy?
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We won't 100% know the answer to that until we get there. But in 2025 fear of a lack of CPU cores is NOT what keeps me awake at night.
Early performance results are positive. Check these links out:
https://join.piefed.social/2024/02/13/technical-performance-of-each-fediverse-platform/
https://join.piefed.social/2024/02/09/comparing-network-utilization-of-lemmy-kbin-and-piefed/
There are many many ways to ruin web app performance and choice of backend language is not really a big one. It's what you do with it that counts.
https://piefed.social is running on a low end VPS which costs $7.50 per month. Load average is about 1.45 during the busiest part of the day. Most of the load is caused by federating with lemmy.world and that won't increase as more users come on board.
PieFed is already really efficient with storage. After 16 months of operation, subscribed to every popular community, the piefed.social DB is 30 GB and the media storage is 28 GB. A Lemmy instance would be 10x that.
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Every time I go to the piefed frontpage I'm blown away by how much more polished it is. It has all the bells and whistles that lemmy is sometimes missing.
Whats the catch? Why aren't we recommending everyone goes to piefed instead of lemmy?
App support is one thing I can think of.
Do we have to recommand it? Do to the nature of the threadiverse, Lemmy content is available on PieFed and PieFed content is available on Lemmy.
It is mostly a matter of chosing an instance. We could surely add an PieFed recommendation to our go to threadiverse instance but is there instance culture there yet?Shouldn't we recommand it first to active user, the ones that create and animate communities, the ones that would create new feeds making those instances more alive?
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Do we have to recommand it? Do to the nature of the threadiverse, Lemmy content is available on PieFed and PieFed content is available on Lemmy.
It is mostly a matter of chosing an instance. We could surely add an PieFed recommendation to our go to threadiverse instance but is there instance culture there yet?Shouldn't we recommand it first to active user, the ones that create and animate communities, the ones that would create new feeds making those instances more alive?
@pseudo @Irelephant
Yes we do have to recommend PieFed. While PieFed is already incredible for what it is able to do, there are some missing key features. So we also need to be honnest about PieFed.
It is a new software so we need to invite more people to give a try. Once they try, sysadmin may give a go after listening to their user feedback.
Most active user won't create a community outside their main instance. Do you picture myself using Piefed.social for c/pisourd ? I would lose the benefit of my french speaking local timeline.
And yes, all content are federated but the way community are managed is different. I can show you the inside of tarte.nuage-libre.fr or [email protected]
Don't you want to give a try ? In exchange i will do a promotion on jlai.lu on any software you want to boost. That one will be the next "tour d'horizon"
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You may not be from the US, but in the US smartphone market, as of late 2024, iOS (Apple) holds a larger market share than Android, with iOS at around 58% and Android at 42%.
I'm the developer of Interstellar, and I am actually from the US. iOS support is something I'd like to add, but is not the priority. @[email protected] made many good points about it not catering towards FOSS projects, but I'd also like to add, it costs $100 every single year in order to have an Apple developer account, which is required if you want to publish anything to the Apple App Store. Additionally, Apple's very expensive hardware is required in order to build and release any Apple software, which I do not own.
All that to say, I'd like to support iOS and macOS platforms, but Apple makes it extremely difficult (and costly) for that to happen. Why should I have to pay $100 every year in order to publish a free app that I'm not even making any money off of?
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I'm the developer of Interstellar, and I am actually from the US. iOS support is something I'd like to add, but is not the priority. @[email protected] made many good points about it not catering towards FOSS projects, but I'd also like to add, it costs $100 every single year in order to have an Apple developer account, which is required if you want to publish anything to the Apple App Store. Additionally, Apple's very expensive hardware is required in order to build and release any Apple software, which I do not own.
All that to say, I'd like to support iOS and macOS platforms, but Apple makes it extremely difficult (and costly) for that to happen. Why should I have to pay $100 every year in order to publish a free app that I'm not even making any money off of?
Man, that all makes perfect sense, and I appreciate the reply. Thanks for laying out the challenges for a small dev to develop for iOS.
I actually like the look of Mbin and Piefed, but like I said, I use Voyager to surf Lemmy a lot of the time, and Voyager doesn't support Mbin/Piefed. I'd be willing to try and maybe switch to a different app, but there's currently no iOS app for either. I'm not above using a PWA, but the Piefed instance I signed up to doesn't even offer an actual PWA, but just a bookmark that opens Piefed in a Safari tab.
So, to bring it back to the original question, that's the reasons that Piefed is a no-go for me.
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@pseudo @Irelephant
Yes we do have to recommend PieFed. While PieFed is already incredible for what it is able to do, there are some missing key features. So we also need to be honnest about PieFed.
It is a new software so we need to invite more people to give a try. Once they try, sysadmin may give a go after listening to their user feedback.
Most active user won't create a community outside their main instance. Do you picture myself using Piefed.social for c/pisourd ? I would lose the benefit of my french speaking local timeline.
And yes, all content are federated but the way community are managed is different. I can show you the inside of tarte.nuage-libre.fr or [email protected]
Don't you want to give a try ? In exchange i will do a promotion on jlai.lu on any software you want to boost. That one will be the next "tour d'horizon"I can show you the inside of tarte.nuage-libre.fr or [email protected]
Maybe one day. Why not
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I just gave it a try, this is what the moderation panel looks like on Piefed:
Maybe this makes it more clear
Thanks, good to know.
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Every time I go to the piefed frontpage I'm blown away by how much more polished it is. It has all the bells and whistles that lemmy is sometimes missing.
Whats the catch? Why aren't we recommending everyone goes to piefed instead of lemmy?
App support is one thing I can think of.
For me..
Because the PWA font is too small and can't be enlarged.
Because there's no 'back to top' button so have to kill the app to refresh.
Because there's no app.
But sometimes I use it anyway because the combining of articles is so much better than seeing the same article three or four times in a row in Voyager.
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Interstellar works with PieFed now although the API it uses is only enabled on one instance https://preferred.social as we're still testing it out.
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Looks like preferred is invite only at this time.
"Invite code (see post on flagship instance)"
Invite code is here: https://piefed.social/post/484755
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