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    This is from people with the mindset of "food is fuel" and they're trying to take the pleasure out of eating.

    I mean I get it. You're trying to eat healthy but you don't have to punish yourself over it. I can make a fantastic salad with air fryer well spiced chicken.

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      A fellow member of boiled, unsalted chicken club!

      Don't forget the tabasco.

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      • noite_etion@lemmy.worldN [email protected]

        I'd rather have an eating disorder when I'm choosing to eat clean healthy food in the exact amount i want than eating too much unhealthy food and being unable to control my weight.

        There is a big gap between eating like shit and putting some pepper on your chicken. If you literally can't control yourself around food that is a problem and creating unhealthy eating habits to avoid that problem isn't the solution... Unless you plan on forcing yourself to eat flavourless food for the rest of your life.

        However i dont class that as an eating disorder.

        It is, and it only gets worse the longer you do it; please find a healthier solution before a bad habit becomes a full blown disorder.

        Its fine to make the choice to put minimal effort into food. Especially when it becomes such an unenjoyable part of the day. And you have to eat big to get big 💪

        Again putting seasoning on your food isn't a complicated process, and forcing yourself to eat flavourless food every single day is definitely unhealthy. If you really struggle with self control around food then speak with someone about that problem instead; imagine eating tasty, healthy food in moderation.

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        I cook well if I'm wanting to cook a nice meal, however thats not what's happening here I'm just trying to hit my macros for the day. A bit of salt or pepper isnt going to do shit to improve the meal. Its not even flavourless, it tastes like chicken and veggies. If I dont care about the meal why should i waste any extra time preparing the meal?

        When I'm trying to maintain weight then I can enjoy food and eat normally. But cutting/bulking you got to be strict otherwise youre just dragging things out longer than they need to be. When you have fat person eating habits your entire life requires an eating disorder to counteract it.

        speak with someone about that

        Psy op advice. There is absolutely nothing a shrink could say that would stop me from demolishing an XL pizza in one sitting.

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          Dude, that plate is upside down! The vegetables! So much carbs!

          Cutting what? Money? Flavor? Health? Or happiness?

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          Yeah it's insane honestly. My own meals are probably like 70% vegetable or something. A lot of people already eat very few vegetables in my opinion, but OP really goes beyond that in this case. Bland, tasteless, and not even healthy

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            lil soy saus? no?

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              U R whatcha 8

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              I ate a Lego when I was a kid

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              • L [email protected]

                This is from people with the mindset of "food is fuel" and they're trying to take the pleasure out of eating.

                I mean I get it. You're trying to eat healthy but you don't have to punish yourself over it. I can make a fantastic salad with air fryer well spiced chicken.

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                No?

                They're not trying to take the pleasure out of eating, they're trying to get as massive as they possibly can. Which, yes, does take the pleasure out of eating. However, their mindset is almost certainly "I have eaten this exact meal 647 times in the past year, I must get bigger, I must get bigger, I must get bigger."

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                  No?

                  They're not trying to take the pleasure out of eating, they're trying to get as massive as they possibly can. Which, yes, does take the pleasure out of eating. However, their mindset is almost certainly "I have eaten this exact meal 647 times in the past year, I must get bigger, I must get bigger, I must get bigger."

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                  Yes and no. You're correct about people skipping seasoning while bulking up. Which is what this looks like based on the protein bottle in the background.

                  I've also spoken to someone in person and online that skip seasoning while just trying to eat healthier.

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                    Yes and no. You're correct about people skipping seasoning while bulking up. Which is what this looks like based on the protein bottle in the background.

                    I've also spoken to someone in person and online that skip seasoning while just trying to eat healthier.

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                    Huh, is there any scientific support for seasoning being bad for you? Like, things like too much salt or MSG — ok there's no arguing against that. But seasoning period?

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                      What does that have to do with seasoning?

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                      I guess it wasn't clear what I was responding to. I edited my comment with the quote.

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                        Not if you fill up with tasty fibre rich food

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                        it genuinely pisses me the fuck off that producers aren't just putting fibre into everything they can, just use the leftover chaff from making white flour!

                        Fibre is the closest thing i know to a magic cure-all supplement, eat more fibre and basically all the little discomforts related to digestion just fucking disappear and you feel generally better and healthier.
                        But like it's really annoying to actually get extra fibre without fairly significant changes to your diet or spending extra on fibre-enriched pasta that's engineered to be basically identical to normal pasta, and yet there are plenty of products that seem like adding fibre would make no change at all to the texture, like just put some grain chaff powder in muffins!!!!

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                          Gymbro bodysculpt enthusiasts are wild. They won't have tasty meals because they don't want food to be associated with pleasure, only fuel.

                          Maybe it works, maybe its a clever brain hack, but I suspect its from the same pseuds that brought us nofap

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                          It's so insane to me because i've trained myself to be quite in tune with my body's needs.
                          Turns out animals are evolved to seek out the food they need to function and thus we have the ability to actually enjoy healthy food and even get cravings for things with the specific nutrients we need at that point in time.
                          Thinking that food shouldn't be pleasurable is like thinking that a well-functioning diesel engine should be making horrid grinding noises and intermittently release smoke from the gaskets..

                          If you just stop eating so much sugar and as much as possible try to cook things from scratch, or at least eat things where you know precisely what ingredients are in it and how it would have been prepared, you should be able to regain the proper feedback from your gut and have a very healthy relationship to food.

                          I'd also recommend as often as possible trying to wait to eat until you're really hungry so you can calibrate your sense of hunger (but like, be smart about it, make sure to eat something if you're gonna do stuff that needs calories and stable blood sugar levels), and try to taste everything once so your body can associate that thing with the nutrients in it.
                          Also also try to sneak in vegetables into every meal in some way, even if it's just adding 2 peas or whatever. That'll psychologically and physically normalize it, so you start wanting it more. Your gut flora is a pretty significant part of what decides your cravings and if you consistently eat something the gut flora will change to things that like digesting those things and thus make you crave them more.

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                            I mean i meal prep my lunches, been over 10 years, updated it once recently. Rice, refried black beans, corn, sweet onion, green pepper. Everyday for lunch. I think it's tasty and being able to eat the same thing everyday for years is what makes me a great partner lol

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                            the difference there is that you think it tastes good, if it just keeps tasting good every time you eat it then yeah why stop?

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                              It does make those cheat days 100x more special though.

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                              but like, every day can be cheat day if you just make healthy food that tastes good..

                              and not only is that obviously more enjoyable, but it means there's 0 temptation to slip back into bad habits because the good habits are self-reinforcing, half the reason i enjoy exercise is because i know it means i can eat more delicious food.

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                              • fizz@lemmy.nzF [email protected]

                                From personal experience its because we like food way to much. Its harder to eat less when the food tastes good. I found it was much easier when I treated food like an activity I had to force myself to do. I'd just cook some meat and boil some mixed veggies and then force it down. I was eating like 200-500g of pasta and almost a kg of food for dinner I felt so fucking sick after every meal.

                                At that point even if I seasoned the chicken I was so sick of it that I would still not enjoy it.

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                                i'm very confused as to what point you're making here, first you seem to say you want to eat less and then you seem to say you wanted to eat way way more than a normal portion?

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                                  How much do you charge for just general friendship?

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                                  1 piece of gum every time we meet

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                                    1 piece of gum every time we meet

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                                    Not something I expected to see six days later.

                                    But gum seems achievable. I'm a lonely man. When can I expect you?

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                                      No?

                                      They're not trying to take the pleasure out of eating, they're trying to get as massive as they possibly can. Which, yes, does take the pleasure out of eating. However, their mindset is almost certainly "I have eaten this exact meal 647 times in the past year, I must get bigger, I must get bigger, I must get bigger."

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                                      there's no reason you have to skip making the food taste good just because you're eating a lot, if you're eating more then you're gonna need more salt, and other spices aren't something you can have too much of unless you're snorting nutmeg..

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                                        consider that a chicken died for this and the least you can do is actually enjoy it

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                                        • swedneck@discuss.tchncs.deS [email protected]

                                          i'm very confused as to what point you're making here, first you seem to say you want to eat less and then you seem to say you wanted to eat way way more than a normal portion?

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                                          Because i was training a lot at the time i had to eat a lot more to not lose weight. But also when I'm cutting and want to lose weight the same applies. I just dont want to see eating as an enjoyable activity or its all that will be on my mind.

                                          When I'm not training for something i dont mind eating normal portions of well prepared meals but I still dont put that much effort in when cooking for myself

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