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  • gon@lemm.eeG [email protected]

    cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/57576884

    There's so many ways to interact with the Fediverse. The most popular, by far, seems to be Mastodon, but Lemmy, Misskey, and Pixelfed are also relatively popular. Kbin used to be popular, but it has apparently been abandoned, and is mostly dead at this point.

    I recently learned that Mbin is a thing, checked it out, and it looked really cool! Has anyone used it? How different is it from Lemmy? I hear they have better integration with Mastodon.

    What Fediverse services do you actually, regularly use?

    For me, it's mostly Lemmy, though I do hop on Mastodon every now and then.

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    I'm an Mbin user.

    Mbin is a fork of kbin. Kbin's dev didn't really trust people much, so he wanted to have sole control over what code gets added to kbin. Which led to issues when he wasn't available and development just came to a halt for months because no one could accept changes anymore. The other devs wanted more control so they could actually get shit done, so they decided to fork the project instead.

    How different is it from Lemmy? I hear they have better integration with Mastodon.

    I think the biggest difference is really the fact that you can subscribe to not just communities but also users. This is where the superior Mastodon compatibility comes into play by allowing us to see posts that don't mention communities. Lemmy only sees Mastodon posts if they mention a community explicitly or an Mbin user has interacted with it.

    There's also other stuff like public upvotes, boosting, tags, reputation (karma), and custom community CSS. I don't really know Lemmy well enough to give a full list of where they differ.

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    • gon@lemm.eeG [email protected]

      How's Pixelfed's federation work? I thought it was an image-based thing, like Instagram, so how does that interop with, say, Lemmy?

      I was using Loops pretty heavily for a while

      Is that like TikTok? Or like Reels, I guess, since it's Pixelfed. A shame it doesn't work for you... I'm big on TikTok, might just give it a try, though I'm not sure I can find the content I want on such a niche platform.

      PieFed and it looks really nice. Probably the best Lemmy threadiverse alternative atm.

      Over Lemmy? Why do you say so? I see what they list as differences from Lemmy and some of the features seem pretty nice, but I'm skeptical of this reputation business. Feels a little like Reddit karma, I don't know.

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      #23

      Pixelfed federatipn works well. it shows up on anything activityhub related.

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      • gon@lemm.eeG [email protected]

        cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/57576884

        There's so many ways to interact with the Fediverse. The most popular, by far, seems to be Mastodon, but Lemmy, Misskey, and Pixelfed are also relatively popular. Kbin used to be popular, but it has apparently been abandoned, and is mostly dead at this point.

        I recently learned that Mbin is a thing, checked it out, and it looked really cool! Has anyone used it? How different is it from Lemmy? I hear they have better integration with Mastodon.

        What Fediverse services do you actually, regularly use?

        For me, it's mostly Lemmy, though I do hop on Mastodon every now and then.

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        #24

        I'm currently busy setting up my own Lemmy instance and PeerTube instance. Before the Fediverse, YT and Reddit were basically the only things I used, I was never a big fan of twitter-like social media. So those slot in nicely into those itches to scratch. (although there are still some creators I follow on YT, I have been watching it a lot less after getting serious with PeerTube)

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        • M [email protected]

          That's a very good question. I don't have a good answer ATM. I have both because I'm on the fence.

          Lemmy and piefed both scratch the topic discovery itch. Both are excellent software.

          Piefed pros:

          1. Topics (collection of communities) are awesome to subscribe to.
          2. One of the best fediverse integrations out there.
          3. The python is easy to read.
          4. Mod tools are great.
          5. The main dec is a treasure

          Lemmy pros:

          1. Very reddit like UI.
          2. Lots of apps phone or otherwise.
          3. Very well supported by admins of the bigger instances

          Lemmy has an easier way to post than piefed. The selection of communities is a bit better. Piefed is much easier to stand up on home servers (I did it once). It's also seeing a large amount of dev work right now. And as I've said before it has much better fediverse integration than Lemmy.

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          #25

          You know, you make it sound like Piefed is pretty strictly better! If the pros for Lemmy boil down to a larger user-base...

          Well, I'll definitely be checking it out! Thanks for the reply ๐Ÿ˜„

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          • abnormalhumanbeing@lemmy.abnormalbeings.spaceA [email protected]

            I'm currently busy setting up my own Lemmy instance and PeerTube instance. Before the Fediverse, YT and Reddit were basically the only things I used, I was never a big fan of twitter-like social media. So those slot in nicely into those itches to scratch. (although there are still some creators I follow on YT, I have been watching it a lot less after getting serious with PeerTube)

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            #26

            Can you find a lot of content on PeerTube? What do you look for on there?

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              Pixelfed federatipn works well. it shows up on anything activityhub related.

              gon@lemm.eeG This user is from outside of this forum
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              it shows up on anything activityhub related.

              I don't think I've ever seen a Pixelfed post... But I was thinking more so the other way around. Does anything AP-related show up on Pixelfed?

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              • P [email protected]

                I'm an Mbin user.

                Mbin is a fork of kbin. Kbin's dev didn't really trust people much, so he wanted to have sole control over what code gets added to kbin. Which led to issues when he wasn't available and development just came to a halt for months because no one could accept changes anymore. The other devs wanted more control so they could actually get shit done, so they decided to fork the project instead.

                How different is it from Lemmy? I hear they have better integration with Mastodon.

                I think the biggest difference is really the fact that you can subscribe to not just communities but also users. This is where the superior Mastodon compatibility comes into play by allowing us to see posts that don't mention communities. Lemmy only sees Mastodon posts if they mention a community explicitly or an Mbin user has interacted with it.

                There's also other stuff like public upvotes, boosting, tags, reputation (karma), and custom community CSS. I don't really know Lemmy well enough to give a full list of where they differ.

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                #28

                Iโ€™m an Mbin user.

                The Fediverse is pretty cool... Hello, Mbin user!

                you can subscribe to not just communities but also users.

                Oh, that's interesting.

                Not sure what the point of public upvotes is, or what boosting is, but tags and custom CSS sounds cool. I've signed up on your same instance, I'll see how it goes.

                Thank you for your comment!

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                • gon@lemm.eeG [email protected]

                  it shows up on anything activityhub related.

                  I don't think I've ever seen a Pixelfed post... But I was thinking more so the other way around. Does anything AP-related show up on Pixelfed?

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                  #29

                  Yep works both ways.

                  If you want to try it out:
                  Pixelfed to other services:
                  https://photos.chrisco.me/p/michaelc/803147727714451568

                  It shows up in:

                  • Mastodon: https://social.rootaccess.org/@[email protected]/114114045115285962

                  Mastodon:
                  https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/114122668582152347

                  And here it is in pixelfed: https://photos.chrisco.me/i/web/post/803734298035587039

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                    Yep works both ways.

                    If you want to try it out:
                    Pixelfed to other services:
                    https://photos.chrisco.me/p/michaelc/803147727714451568

                    It shows up in:

                    • Mastodon: https://social.rootaccess.org/@[email protected]/114114045115285962

                    Mastodon:
                    https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/114122668582152347

                    And here it is in pixelfed: https://photos.chrisco.me/i/web/post/803734298035587039

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                    #30

                    oh wait that may not work for you on my server, I made it auth protected woops!

                    It works but im on the phone....so im going to leave it for now. But yeah it works.

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                    • gon@lemm.eeG [email protected]

                      Iโ€™m an Mbin user.

                      The Fediverse is pretty cool... Hello, Mbin user!

                      you can subscribe to not just communities but also users.

                      Oh, that's interesting.

                      Not sure what the point of public upvotes is, or what boosting is, but tags and custom CSS sounds cool. I've signed up on your same instance, I'll see how it goes.

                      Thank you for your comment!

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                      #31

                      How's my Mbin karma

                      A screenshot
                      It's 2500~, but it doesn't affect anything on Mbin, so there's no point worrying about it

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                      • fitik@fedia.ioF [email protected]

                        How's my Mbin karma

                        A screenshot
                        It's 2500~, but it doesn't affect anything on Mbin, so there's no point worrying about it

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                        #32

                        Thanks! Yeah, I have no idea how that's even calculated or whatever so... If it doesn't even affect anything, I don't see why I would care lol

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                        • M [email protected]

                          Yep works both ways.

                          If you want to try it out:
                          Pixelfed to other services:
                          https://photos.chrisco.me/p/michaelc/803147727714451568

                          It shows up in:

                          • Mastodon: https://social.rootaccess.org/@[email protected]/114114045115285962

                          Mastodon:
                          https://mastodon.social/@nixCraft/114122668582152347

                          And here it is in pixelfed: https://photos.chrisco.me/i/web/post/803734298035587039

                          gon@lemm.eeG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Ugh, the links aren't working as intended I think...

                          The first Pixelfed link works, but the first Mastodon link just redirects me to the Pixelfed one.

                          The second Mastodon link works, but the corresponding Pixelfed link prompts a signup...

                          I believe you, though!

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                          • gon@lemm.eeG [email protected]

                            Can you find a lot of content on PeerTube? What do you look for on there?

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                            By now: Yeah, there are some nice creators on PeerTube. Overall, it feels a bit more like old YouTube, many more people just creating because they want to, instead of chasing fame, as well as bizarre and weird little videos here and there. One advantage of it: It has much better native embedding into Lemmy (at least on newer versions)!

                            Much like in other fedi-places, it's work to curate your own feed instead of having algorithms feed you. I have ADHD, so usually, I have some video or something running on my second screen while working on other stuff, and whenever my attention is spent, I switch to there and scour the recent or trending feed (or new vids from subscribers) for something interesting to share and watch.

                            For anyone interested - I am always happy to plug [email protected] - we recently hit 200 subscribers and have been steadily growing. If you are looking for an instance to join, I am still tinkering with it, but mine is open to new applications for as long as the server resources allow.

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                            • gon@lemm.eeG [email protected]

                              Thanks! Yeah, I have no idea how that's even calculated or whatever so... If it doesn't even affect anything, I don't see why I would care lol

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                              #35

                              It's basically the same as Reddit karma, it's just the sum of upvotes+downvotes you got

                              If it doesn't even affect anything, I don't see why I would care lol

                              Same, idc, but some people care about it. Also piefed cares, I think it puts a red icon in the username of the users with negative reputation and their posts start with 0 upvotes instead of 1. (If I'm not mistaken)

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                              • gon@lemm.eeG [email protected]

                                Ugh, the links aren't working as intended I think...

                                The first Pixelfed link works, but the first Mastodon link just redirects me to the Pixelfed one.

                                The second Mastodon link works, but the corresponding Pixelfed link prompts a signup...

                                I believe you, though!

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                                Yeah its totally my setup sorry! I had some issues with openAI and amazon just slamming my servers so had to make it harder for them to get content.

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                                • gon@lemm.eeG [email protected]

                                  You know, you make it sound like Piefed is pretty strictly better! If the pros for Lemmy boil down to a larger user-base...

                                  Well, I'll definitely be checking it out! Thanks for the reply ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                  #37

                                  Oh yeah filters! They are a thing. Works pretty well on piefed.

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                                  • fitik@fedia.ioF [email protected]

                                    It's basically the same as Reddit karma, it's just the sum of upvotes+downvotes you got

                                    If it doesn't even affect anything, I don't see why I would care lol

                                    Same, idc, but some people care about it. Also piefed cares, I think it puts a red icon in the username of the users with negative reputation and their posts start with 0 upvotes instead of 1. (If I'm not mistaken)

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                                    Meh, I suppose!!! Thanks for the info~ ๐Ÿ˜„

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                                    • m_f@discuss.onlineM [email protected]

                                      Mostly Lemmy via discuss.online, with a little bit of Pixelfed via social.photo and Mastodon via utter.online.

                                      I was using Loops pretty heavily for a while, but the most recent update made it not work right on my phone (and there's no web version), so maybe I'll try again when it's out of beta. It's also not truly federated atm, so only sort of counts.

                                      I've tried out a bit of PieFed and it looks really nice. Probably the best Lemmy threadiverse alternative atm. The dev does some interesting experiments like Private Voting

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                                      loops needs to add selfhosting for vid quality options alone, everythings so blurry

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                                        Oh yeah filters! They are a thing. Works pretty well on piefed.

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                                        Do all filters have that 3 level system? Blocking all, most, or none of a certain topic? Because that is a Feature, capital F Feature.

                                        Also, do you know of an alternative front-end for Piefed? I use alexandrite.app for Lemmy, there's also phtn.app. Does Piefed have something like that?

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                                        • gon@lemm.eeG [email protected]

                                          How's Pixelfed's federation work? I thought it was an image-based thing, like Instagram, so how does that interop with, say, Lemmy?

                                          I was using Loops pretty heavily for a while

                                          Is that like TikTok? Or like Reels, I guess, since it's Pixelfed. A shame it doesn't work for you... I'm big on TikTok, might just give it a try, though I'm not sure I can find the content I want on such a niche platform.

                                          PieFed and it looks really nice. Probably the best Lemmy threadiverse alternative atm.

                                          Over Lemmy? Why do you say so? I see what they list as differences from Lemmy and some of the features seem pretty nice, but I'm skeptical of this reputation business. Feels a little like Reddit karma, I don't know.

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                                          Pixelfed/Mastodon/etc sort of work with Lemmy, in that they can see Lemmy posts. Lemmy can see posts from them if you tag them appropriately, which rarely happens. They only sort of federate properly. And yeah, Loops is like TikTok for the Fediverse.

                                          I'm not saying PieFed is better than Lemmy, just saying that apart from Lemmy, your best option is probably PieFed atm.

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