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    Alt text: Chart showing average height, but incorrectly scales the entire person instead of just the height, with the Netherlands as the tallest and Indonesians as the shortest. Bottom image is the Bane vs. Pink guy meme showing Bane as the Dutch and Pink guy as the Indonesians.

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    I wonder how this correlates with ethnic diversity in the population?

    Is the Netherlands average high because of a lack there and are the UK and US lower because of greater ethnic diversity in the population?

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      Awwww, it doesn't know what "average" is

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      It doesn't know what a joke is.

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        I wonder how this correlates with ethnic diversity in the population?

        Is the Netherlands average high because of a lack there and are the UK and US lower because of greater ethnic diversity in the population?

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        Not necessarily. Ethnic diversity is higher in US than in Indonesia.

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          Not necessarily. Ethnic diversity is higher in US than in Indonesia.

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          I'm confused. Wouldn't that support the theory?

          If lower in ethnic diversity and native Indonesians are naturally short then Indonesia would be shorter on average. Whereas the US, being such a melting pot, would have a greater range of heights bringing the overall average down, right?

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            Alt text: Chart showing average height, but incorrectly scales the entire person instead of just the height, with the Netherlands as the tallest and Indonesians as the shortest. Bottom image is the Bane vs. Pink guy meme showing Bane as the Dutch and Pink guy as the Indonesians.

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            Dutch with a 1" head?
            This graph makes no f*cking sense whatsoever

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              Lol why are the british and americans so freaking short. I never understood why 6 foot was such a big fucking deal but apparently in hungary, one if the shortest non-southern nations in europe, its still much likelier that you are 6 foot than in the uk or usa. Yall are shorties, explains all the male insecurities /s

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              I'm not walking around measuring people... ever since the restraining order, but just looking around it seems like guys here in the US are around 5'10" or 5'11" on average. I'm 6'2" and don't really feel tall.

              Someone else guessed maybe it's because of the higher proportion of people from other regions where average height in their place of birth (or parents' or grandparents' place of birth) is shorter. Makes sense to me that our immigrants and their offspring could be bringing down average height.

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                Not necessarily. Ethnic diversity is higher in US than in Indonesia.

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                Shit Americans say.

                There are more than 600 ethnic groups[2] in the multicultural Indonesian archipelago, making it one of the most diverse countries in the world.

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                  I'm confused. Wouldn't that support the theory?

                  If lower in ethnic diversity and native Indonesians are naturally short then Indonesia would be shorter on average. Whereas the US, being such a melting pot, would have a greater range of heights bringing the overall average down, right?

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                  If anything it says with increasing diversity height gets closer to global average which seems pretty reasonable.

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                    If anything it says with increasing diversity height gets closer to global average which seems pretty reasonable.

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                    Isn't global male height supposed to be about 5' 7" on average? The closest to that on the graph is the US, which has a very diverse population.

                    I'm still not understanding your original comment "Not necessarily. Ethnic diversity is higher in US than in Indonesia."

                    It seems like you're saying ethnic diversity isn't necessarily a consideration in why the heights of the UK and US are where they are but then support the theory with the next sentence pointing out the ethnic diversity of the US.

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                      Isn't global male height supposed to be about 5' 7" on average? The closest to that on the graph is the US, which has a very diverse population.

                      I'm still not understanding your original comment "Not necessarily. Ethnic diversity is higher in US than in Indonesia."

                      It seems like you're saying ethnic diversity isn't necessarily a consideration in why the heights of the UK and US are where they are but then support the theory with the next sentence pointing out the ethnic diversity of the US.

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                      The original comment says in NL height is more cause lack of diversity. J meant that's not necessarily the case (ie lack of diversity =/=> taller).

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                        I'm not walking around measuring people... ever since the restraining order, but just looking around it seems like guys here in the US are around 5'10" or 5'11" on average. I'm 6'2" and don't really feel tall.

                        Someone else guessed maybe it's because of the higher proportion of people from other regions where average height in their place of birth (or parents' or grandparents' place of birth) is shorter. Makes sense to me that our immigrants and their offspring could be bringing down average height.

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                        Yes, the height of black and white men averages close to 5'10" here, and the height of black and white women around 5'5" I think, we do just have a lot of everyone here, except apparently not Dutch?

                        My husband & I are both about 5'9" and he says he feels dead average because sometimes he goes out and is taller than all the guys he passes, and sometimes goes out and is shorter than all the guys he passes, but usually doesn't notice, I feel tall because I don't notice if all the women I pass are shorter than me but really notice if many are taller than me.

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                          Shit Americans say.

                          There are more than 600 ethnic groups[2] in the multicultural Indonesian archipelago, making it one of the most diverse countries in the world.

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                          Ethnicity: the quality or fact of belonging to a population group or subgroup made up of people who share a common cultural background or descent.

                          That doesn't mean they have 600 genetic lineages.

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                            Lol why are the british and americans so freaking short. I never understood why 6 foot was such a big fucking deal but apparently in hungary, one if the shortest non-southern nations in europe, its still much likelier that you are 6 foot than in the uk or usa. Yall are shorties, explains all the male insecurities /s

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                            5'9" is average for an American male, a mere 3" shy of 6'. Plus, this graph is not only false, the scale is laughable.

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                              I'm not walking around measuring people... ever since the restraining order, but just looking around it seems like guys here in the US are around 5'10" or 5'11" on average. I'm 6'2" and don't really feel tall.

                              Someone else guessed maybe it's because of the higher proportion of people from other regions where average height in their place of birth (or parents' or grandparents' place of birth) is shorter. Makes sense to me that our immigrants and their offspring could be bringing down average height.

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                              Maybe there is something to it but the uk for example has really low immigration and where i libe now in sweden, like one fourth of the population is recently immigrated people and even the immigrants are taller than youd expect tho there is a lot of mixing between people. I also think the immigration from for example the balkans could have actually pushed the average height up because croatians, serbians and even more so bosnians are tall af.

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                                The original comment says in NL height is more cause lack of diversity. J meant that's not necessarily the case (ie lack of diversity =/=> taller).

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                                Ok, so I understand that but how does this fit in:

                                Ethnic diversity is higher in US than in Indonesia.

                                In the US, a country with greater ethnic diversity than Indonesia, the height is close to the global average, whereas in Indonesia it is significantly below. Correlation ≠ Causation but that statement does more to support the idea that ethnic diversity plays a role than it does to dispute it.

                                If anything it says with increasing diversity height gets closer to global average which seems pretty reasonable.

                                Same here. With increasing diversity (e.g. the US) height gets closer to global average versus a country with less diversity ("diversity is higher in US than in Indonesia") where the average height is likely more representative of strictly ethnic Indonesians.

                                Again, I understand Correlation ≠ Causation but that's why I posted my comment as a question rather than a statement. That maybe this graph is skewed because it fails to account for that diversity and instead of going by country it would make more sense to go by ethnic background?

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                                  Ohh that's the reason why Dutch colonized Indonesia for so long

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                                  Considering that the Dutch were below average before the second world war, I think your hypothesis is wrong. I think they were just compensating for being tiny during that time.

                                  On a more serious note, I just think the Dutch had zero scruples (inventors of modern capitalism and all).

                                  They just didn't care how many people they screwed over aslong as they could get one more Gulden in their pocket.

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                                    300 hundred years because we are a itty bitty tiny sized human.

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                                    300 hundred years

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                                      Shit Americans say.

                                      There are more than 600 ethnic groups[2] in the multicultural Indonesian archipelago, making it one of the most diverse countries in the world.

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                                      Pointing out the number for one country and not the other doesn't demonstrate anything.

                                      I looked it up and it does seem that there's more diversity in Indonesia than in the US, according to the below Wikipedia article. Hopefully next time we can share information without being hostile. 🙂

                                      https://share.google/0XBU0Latoy4AIRpgs

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                                        I wonder how this correlates with ethnic diversity in the population?

                                        Is the Netherlands average high because of a lack there and are the UK and US lower because of greater ethnic diversity in the population?

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                                        That's hard to tell, because not everyone tracks data the same way.

                                        The UK has a population that's 72% British/Irish. The Netherlands has a population that's 74% Dutch.

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                                          I'm not walking around measuring people... ever since the restraining order, but just looking around it seems like guys here in the US are around 5'10" or 5'11" on average. I'm 6'2" and don't really feel tall.

                                          Someone else guessed maybe it's because of the higher proportion of people from other regions where average height in their place of birth (or parents' or grandparents' place of birth) is shorter. Makes sense to me that our immigrants and their offspring could be bringing down average height.

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                                          I wonder if this is a regional thing in the USA? I'm 6 ft tall and only encountered 4 non-relatives taller than me in the past 20 years. Most don't even come close to my height.

                                          It's so rare that I remember them to this day despite just seeing them in passing. 3 of the 4 were when traveling across the country.

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