France charges 18-year-old for planning attacks in first 'Incel' terrorism case
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The word incel is a portmanteau of 'involuntary celibacy' so it means, by definition, 'not getting pussy'
Are you saying gay men are all incels?
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Are you saying gay men are all incels?
well shit you got me there haha SatansMaggotyCumFart, you have expanded my mind today. I retract my previous incorrect definition.
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18 year-old ... "adolescent"
Which is it?
It could be a translation thing. In certain parts of France, "ados" is a bit of a catch-all term for anyone in teenager or young adults years. It's not strictly defined, but would explain the presence of the word in an English translation.
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Both.
In civilised countries you can still be tried as a child when you are deemed too immature.
Don't know how it is in France but in Germany this can be the case until you are 27 years old. So while you are for most purposes an "adult" from 18 onwards even a 26 year old can be seen as adolescent. Because the law knows that not all people are the same.
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teenager
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Are you saying gay men are all incels?
No, quite the opposite, because they voluntarily reject sex with women.
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You're going to have to explain this comment a bit more because it sounds like you think men not getting pussy makes them incels instead of them just being disgusting human beings that no one wants to be around.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]The charges were terror related, there's no special extra charge or any new laws being used "for the first time" just because he was an incel...
...also he wasn't an incel, he was a far-right praising hitler fear of the great replacement teenager.
Pretending that women sleeping with people like that will stop them doing crimes or is somehow a pivotal factor just extends the sex obsessed and objectifying beliefs of that world view.
Using the term incel amplifies the idea that it's a valid idea.It's a shitty headline, so I mocked it.
Incel describes most single people. It's quite normal, we need to stop telling men it's not normal.
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The charges were terror related, there's no special extra charge or any new laws being used "for the first time" just because he was an incel...
...also he wasn't an incel, he was a far-right praising hitler fear of the great replacement teenager.
Pretending that women sleeping with people like that will stop them doing crimes or is somehow a pivotal factor just extends the sex obsessed and objectifying beliefs of that world view.
Using the term incel amplifies the idea that it's a valid idea.It's a shitty headline, so I mocked it.
Incel describes most single people. It's quite normal, we need to stop telling men it's not normal.
An 18-year-old man suspected of planning attacks against women has been charged by France’s anti-terrorism prosecutors in the country’s first case to be exclusively linked to the “incel” movement.
The suspect, identified as Timothy G., was arrested near a high school in the Saint-Étienne region carrying two knives in his bag. Sources close to the case told the French press agency AFP that he intended to target women and openly identified with the “incel” ideology.
This is the first time the PNAT has handled a case solely involving the incel movement, which had previously appeared marginally in two other terrorism-related cases. One involved a young man from northern France linked to the far right, charged in September 2023 with plans for violent acts. He was described by sources as “an unstable, frustrated young adult rather than an ideologue.” Another case involved four young men, one planning to travel to Syria, two glorifying Hitler and Nazism, and three communicating with a woman who dreamed of bombing a church. Two admired “great replacement” conspiracy theories and mass killers associated with the far right, including Anders Breivik, Brenton Tarrant, and Dylan Klebold. Timothy G. had also shown interest in some of these incidents.
I have no idea what article you're talking about.
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The word incel is a portmanteau of 'involuntary celibacy' so it means, by definition, 'not getting pussy'
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Incel describes most single people. It's quite a normal state of affairs to not be having sex most of the time if you're single. Young people need to be told this far more than they are being.
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An 18-year-old man suspected of planning attacks against women has been charged by France’s anti-terrorism prosecutors in the country’s first case to be exclusively linked to the “incel” movement.
The suspect, identified as Timothy G., was arrested near a high school in the Saint-Étienne region carrying two knives in his bag. Sources close to the case told the French press agency AFP that he intended to target women and openly identified with the “incel” ideology.
This is the first time the PNAT has handled a case solely involving the incel movement, which had previously appeared marginally in two other terrorism-related cases. One involved a young man from northern France linked to the far right, charged in September 2023 with plans for violent acts. He was described by sources as “an unstable, frustrated young adult rather than an ideologue.” Another case involved four young men, one planning to travel to Syria, two glorifying Hitler and Nazism, and three communicating with a woman who dreamed of bombing a church. Two admired “great replacement” conspiracy theories and mass killers associated with the far right, including Anders Breivik, Brenton Tarrant, and Dylan Klebold. Timothy G. had also shown interest in some of these incidents.
I have no idea what article you're talking about.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]PNAT laws increase the severity of all terrorism related prosecutions. They aren't aimed at "incels" in particular.
Hitler, great replacement, and communicating with women, aren't incel traits. That last one in particular.
That's far-right stuff.
Plenty of leftwing incels.
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PNAT laws increase the severity of all terrorism related prosecutions. They aren't aimed at "incels" in particular.
Hitler, great replacement, and communicating with women, aren't incel traits. That last one in particular.
That's far-right stuff.
Plenty of leftwing incels.
That's a different case like my quote from the article clearly states.
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That's a different case like my quote from the article clearly states.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]So the anti-terrorism laws have been used before and apply to all terrorism..
My comment is mocking that incel - which basically means single and upset about it, is being made central to the headline.
Just say he's a misogynist. Pretending it's something abnormal for single men to not be having sex just extends the premise of "incels" (the idea that they should be upset about it, or that it's extra).
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So the anti-terrorism laws have been used before and apply to all terrorism..
My comment is mocking that incel - which basically means single and upset about it, is being made central to the headline.
Just say he's a misogynist. Pretending it's something abnormal for single men to not be having sex just extends the premise of "incels" (the idea that they should be upset about it, or that it's extra).
Sources close to the case told the French press agency AFP that he intended to target women and openly identified with the “incel” ideology.
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Sources close to the case told the French press agency AFP that he intended to target women and openly identified with the “incel” ideology.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]Yeah they think it's extraordinary to not be having sex when single, so it's women's fault.
When being sexless is the majority of what being single means.
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Yeah they think it's extraordinary to not be having sex when single, so it's women's fault.
When being sexless is the majority of what being single means.
Stop trying to equate incel and singles not having sex.
It's weird and makes no sense.
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Stop trying to equate incel and singles not having sex.
It's weird and makes no sense.
I'm trying to normalize that singles aren't having sex...
.... because the feeling that young men not having sex is abnormal causes a bad mindset.
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Stop trying to equate incel and singles not having sex.
It's weird and makes no sense.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]I'd call your user name "weird", but I'm not one to use social pressures like that, and would rather have conversations where the actual issues and causes are discussed.
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I'm trying to normalize that singles aren't having sex...
.... because the feeling that young men not having sex is abnormal causes a bad mindset.
To be clear this article is about a self-declared incel who tried to target women.
Get off your soapbox it's not the place for it.
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I'd call your user name "weird", but I'm not one to use social pressures like that, and would rather have conversations where the actual issues and causes are discussed.
I chose my username just as the person this article is referring to chose to be an incel.
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I chose my username just as the person this article is referring to chose to be an incel.
wrote on last edited by [email protected]You seem deaf to what I'm saying. There are cultural tensions involved. Yes people choose their ethical compliances but those choices are always constrained by cultural, educational, and structural bounds. The cultural messaging of the time.
Before this generation were the first school shooters, before them it was satanic panic related crimes, before them it was the first post WW2 street gangs.
These are all topics that insert violence into cultural frameworks without having the necessary discussions of causes and the messaging around these frameworks.
