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FYI: Generic USB-C docks no longer work with Switch 2, USB mice don't work either

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      Nintendo: our newer stuff is also not USB-C compliant.

      There's a special place in hell for this company.

      Edit: to be clear I mean the charging standard. Although regular USB-C docks shouldn't pose too much of a problem. I had some issues with one on Linux back in 2019 but just the HDMI and I ended up fixing it.

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        Nintendo: our newer stuff is also not USB-C compliant.

        There's a special place in hell for this company.

        Edit: to be clear I mean the charging standard. Although regular USB-C docks shouldn't pose too much of a problem. I had some issues with one on Linux back in 2019 but just the HDMI and I ended up fixing it.

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        As far as I know, the charging is mostly just regular USB C PD, although with some odd power profiles (weird voltages that most non-PPS chargers don't support) and Switch 1's charger technically violating the spec through no 9V profile (the dock also does, but that's to allow the drop in functionality without the regular USB C click). Switch 2's charger complies and has a 9V profile though. This standardisation means I can power the Switch 2 dock with my Lenovo laptop charger no worries since it has a 20 volt profile at 3+ amps. Similar story for any power supply with a 20 volt profile, or one with PPS that can work in that range.

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          As far as I know, the charging is mostly just regular USB C PD, although with some odd power profiles (weird voltages that most non-PPS chargers don't support) and Switch 1's charger technically violating the spec through no 9V profile (the dock also does, but that's to allow the drop in functionality without the regular USB C click). Switch 2's charger complies and has a 9V profile though. This standardisation means I can power the Switch 2 dock with my Lenovo laptop charger no worries since it has a 20 volt profile at 3+ amps. Similar story for any power supply with a 20 volt profile, or one with PPS that can work in that range.

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          All I remember is RT Game's controller not charging until he used a Nintendo branded cable.

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            All I remember is RT Game's controller not charging until he used a Nintendo branded cable.

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            My Switch 2 Pro Controller and Joy Con 1 charging grip both charge fine off a Samsung 25W charger with an IKEA USB C to C cable (on a sidenote, IKEA of all places do great chargers and cables, way better prices too), as well as a Samsung USB C to A cable connected to my PC's front ports. Perhaps the cables he was using were old or defective in some way? Although that stream did make me think the whole time that Nintendo (and also Sony) should just use regular AA batteries like the Xbox controllers.

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              My Switch 2 Pro Controller and Joy Con 1 charging grip both charge fine off a Samsung 25W charger with an IKEA USB C to C cable (on a sidenote, IKEA of all places do great chargers and cables, way better prices too), as well as a Samsung USB C to A cable connected to my PC's front ports. Perhaps the cables he was using were old or defective in some way? Although that stream did make me think the whole time that Nintendo (and also Sony) should just use regular AA batteries like the Xbox controllers.

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              That was for the switch 1.

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                That was for the switch 1.

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                The Switch 1 Pro Controller also worked fine in the past with a third party cable (it was some sort of phone charger, I can't remember the exact model). I haven't got one at the moment, but if I get the opportunity I will let you know how it goes. However, it is likely going to work due to my Switch 1 Joy Con charging grip charging fine off all the random cables in my house in addition to the one that comes in the box.

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                  USB mice are a bit of a weird situation. You can't use them in menus or as direct replacements for Joy Con 2 mice (so no Drag x Drive, no Welcome Tour, so on), but you can use them in some supported games (most notably at the moment Nobunaga's Ambition Awakening).

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                    USB mice are a bit of a weird situation. You can't use them in menus or as direct replacements for Joy Con 2 mice (so no Drag x Drive, no Welcome Tour, so on), but you can use them in some supported games (most notably at the moment Nobunaga's Ambition Awakening).

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                    Switch 1 games could also support them. A recent story claimed generic mice would just work. That's false.

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